But I do not know where the seed germination can be bad. Other than seeds, it has something to do with irrigation, garden soil. I know they should not matter WRG to this, but I can see certain area getting better germination.

I'm not sure if the new seedlings can compete with the existing plants. Or the existing seedlings can just fill in the gaps.

In our zone, this time of year, I get poor results with peas. It's too hot. Besides poor germination, the seeds get eaten by the grasshoppers and other critters that have multiplied at the end of summer. Also, the plants stay very short and don't produce more than one flower or none at all. My spring crops are incredible. I gave up on late summer planting of peas.

Another thought...if you saved the seeds from your spring crop, and if they were hybrids, the new seeds produced might not be fertile or may not produce good plants at all. Or...did you save the seeds from the packets you bought in spring?

Those are Cascadia suger snap peas I saved from spring. It is just an experiment. Not sure if this is hybrid or OP seeds. So far, they grow slowly since it is still hot and dry. Still hope to get something when weather gets cooler.

There aren't hybrid peas or beans (in the commercial sense), so that won't be a problem. The way that pea and bean flowers are it'd be an unimaginable pain in the neck to create mass quantities of consistent hybrid seed. It isn't nearly as simple as planting inbred corn lines next to each other and letting the wind do the work, and there's pretty much no demand, so no one's really bothered.

Anyway, I'm late to this thread, but after dealing with snails and inconsistent soil moisture for years I now start almost all of my legumes inside. I put them in a tray lined with wet paper towels and covered with shrink wrap, and as soon as the first white root tip emerges I plant them outside. I get a lot higher germination % this way, and no gaps in rows.

My peas didn't germinate great either. I got less than 50%. The Spring peas were a little better. Too late to plant more for me, it is what it is.

RedSun, Cascadia is OP and it performed the best of all our peas in our unusually hot spring and early summer this year.

Great to know. I should plant again next spring. From what I see, the area where I dug deeper, the germination clearly is better. I did not dig again (after spring crop) the rest of the area and the germination is worse. Something learnt, to dig deeper and improve the soil.

Another heat wave this week, my peas are already looking pretty stressed.... I will be very surprised if I get any Fall peas this year, but maybe I am being pessimistic. Good luck RedSun!

I water them every 2-3 days. They are still green and about 3-4" tall. Weather should be cool late September and October should be wet....

Mine are still green but the leaves have signs of stress. They are also 3-4" tall. We will see what next week brings. Keep us updated how it goes.

On the plus side, my late bean planting is happy. If I don't get any peas I will have plenty of beans.

I still have my last batch of bush snap beans, not so much, but try to keep the garden covered. What I learnt this season is that, for bush snap beans, better to pull the plants after harvesting the first batch. The late small batch has lover quality and more diseases.

Well my peas certainly seemed to survive. We will see whether they produce or not though. Only about a month left of growing sun exposure, and they are about 1.5 feet tall now. I guess the seedlings can handle the heat better than I thought. How are yours Redsun?

I grew my peas in my old garlic bed. Since I have some volunteer garlic in that bed, I did not till the soil. The pea plants are still alive, but not thriving. In the area where I did dig, the peas plants are doing much better.

The plants are producing some peas, but the pods are small and tough. I just cut them off and threw them away.

This is actually my first full season growing peas. I saved seeds for fall planting, so no extra cost, just to experiment. With this experiment, I do not think I'm going to plant peas again next year. Or at least I won't plant the seeds in August. I think the heat stunned the seedlings. I'll have to think of other things to plant for maturity of 30-40 days. Very likely leafy vegetables. So I can sow from early September to mid/late October frost time.