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Citrus SOS

11 years ago

Hi everyone,

I have posted recently about my Eureka Lemon tree seedling, "Trevor" who is around a month old.

I live in the UK and so far Trevor has not been outside, and he sits on a South east facing window. I have used John Innes No 2 soil in his pot.

The problem is that up until now he's been doing fine, but one of the leaves looks really unhealthy :(

This is the picture of the plant:

This is the specific leaf I'm worried about, sorry about the picture quality:

The pictures really bad but the leaf is curled, and has a black tip and edges with small gaps on the edges.

I have had huge difficulty with the soil, as I think that it's hydrophobic, and am clueless of how I can water it or if it needs different compost.

I also have another lemon tree who seems to be doing just fine, even though I have treated it the exact same way?? Here it is:

Im in real need of some advice, like how I should water, why Trevor's leaf is unhappy, and if I am using a suitable compost. I'm so thankful for any advice you guys can provide:)

Thanks!

Comments (11)

  • 11 years ago

    Yup, I tried sorting out the soil by adding a mixture of soap and water, and the soil absorbs water now, but im not sure if it gets to the root system. What compost do you recommend??

    Thanks

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Did you mist the leaves?

    Lewis thanked pip313
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Why compost? Why not a great open and porous soilless mix?
    Second, do you have a fan that moves the air about those seedlings..You will get leaf rot if left with too much moisture and not enough light. Why are the leaves wet?

    Lewis thanked myermike_1micha
  • 11 years ago

    I do mist the leaves, which is why they are wet, but I don't have a fan Mike, should I get one??

  • 11 years ago

    Need to be a bit careful here with UK/US use of English.

    'Compost' is used a bit differently in British English - it is often used instead of 'potting soil' or 'potting mix'. It doesn't always mean the rotting vegetation sort of compost.

    John Innes in UK is a widely available sterilised soil-based potting mix (or compost!) with added nutrients. It is excellent for many plants, but I don't find it good for citrus.

    After many years of trying different products, I find a soilless gritty mix is best for established potted citrus but not for young seedlings. For those I would use a peat based mix such as Levingtons Citrus Compost, with some added perlite to improve aeration.

    Lewis thanked citrange2
  • 11 years ago

    In British English, terms 2 parts coarse sand 1 part compost. will work wonders. Sand should be around a 1/16 inch diameter. I got my sand out of the street gutter. I also filled my containers to the very top with my soil so I could not water from above. This forced me to place my tree in shallow water to hydrate the soil. Last I puled the tree up to expose a 1/2 inch of root so that the tender green stem did not get killed by Damp- off (MERSA Flesh eating bacteria of plants).

    Lewis thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 11 years ago

    Ok thanks you everyone, I will follow your advice on the soil.

    Does anyone know whats causing the leaf to be unhealthy though, as then ill know whats wrong and can mend it :)

  • 11 years ago

    To me, the leaf doesn't look unhealthy. It may have become a bit curled at the edge along with the black tip (which is very tiny) when the soil dried out a bit too much. It seems to be growing fine now. The curl and black tip probably won't change as it happened when the leaf was smaller, so it's like a scar now. But it won't really affect the plant at this point. In my opinion.

    Please do not mist your plant. Citrus in general do not need misting, and young seedlings like yours are more susceptible to fungal diseases (such as Damping Off, which Steve mentions) and misting can provide a perfect environment for the fungus spores. Better to keep the leaves dry and just keep the soil mix evenly moist, not too wet, not too dry. So in a very small container like that you just have to check the soil mix moisture content more often.

    It does need more light though, the stretching of the stem shows it's reaching for more light.


    Lewis thanked BarbJP 15-16/9B CA Bay Area
  • 11 years ago

    I can not tell what is wrong with your tree but I can tell you in general that being a citrus tree is half the problem. If you check the different topic threads you will see tha the citrus forums have by far the heaviest use with what is wrong with my citrus tree. Citrus trees to however bounce back much better than a lot of other plants so don't worry. You'll just have a lot of minor problems that look a lot more threatening to your tree than they actually are. If you look close at my trees you will see that 70% to 90% of the foliage is twisted, warped, off color, asymmetrical, cupped, creased. It is a minority of my leaves that actually look good. They all produce food for the plant and seem to last from a half year to 2 years. You chose the right variety to grow. Lemons grow fast and can bounce back from the worst catastrophes due to their fast growth.

    Lewis thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 11 years ago

    Thanks bard and steve, youve reassured me now:)

    Especially thanks to you steve, as youve also helped on other threads before now :)))

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