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How quickly do red wrigglers disintegrate?

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

I checked on my worms earlier in the week before I fed them and today I checked on them again and couldn't find a single one. I started with 3 tiny red wrigglers I found in my potting soil two months back and until this week they seemed fine and on the verge of adulthood.

Based on their size on Monday, I decided to increase the amount of food I gave them with the plan to feed them less often and disturb them less. I was concerned that I might have given them too much at once so I decided to check on them today and found none. I tried looking for them around my desk (they were on top) and found no signs of them.

I did notice in the last 2-3 days a strange wafting smell, but I couldn't figure out where it came from so I decided to open the lid of the bin to air for a bit. Perhaps the worms in retrospect may have escaped? The weird thing is the bin is enclosed in a mesh bag as protection, because I have weird bugs in my home. I always thought I would find the worms in the mesh bag if they ever escaped since the bin in on my desk and I do check the outside for bugs. I'm stumped. If they did escape somehow they escaped to the worst place as my desk and surrounding area are filled with books and stacks of paper.

Is it possible they disintegrated in the bin? I know they are primarily water, but do they disintegrate that quickly? I pulled apart the bedding to find signs and there's nothing.

Comments (9)

  • 10 years ago

    Now I'm wondering if I accidentally poisoned my worms. Still the absence of any bodies is strange unless they do disintegrate that quickly. Anyone know?

    I added a few mint leaves that I had treated with home insecticidal soap spray (a drop of dawn, olive oil, water). I made sure to wash the mint leaves a few times in clean water. Because I read the mint leaves should be safe for human consumption, I thought a few mint leaves would be okay for the worms, too. (Perhaps not?) I added the mint along with a slice of banana and two small slices of leftover corn cob so it wasn't the only food in the bin. Could the treated mint leaves be behind the disappearance of my worms? The bin smelled fine, the way it should - like moist soil - and the bedding looked fine, damp and moist.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Okay, I finally found some info online. It seems dead worms do decompose very rapidly, so it makes sense that I would not find any signs even after a few days. I think it's highly likely I unwittingly poisoned my worms. Dumb mistake.

  • 10 years ago

    So you don't think I poisoned my worms with the treated mint leaves?

    It's weird, but whenever I caught a whiff of the slight acrid smell, I would open the bin to check and each time it smelled fine. I actually thought I imagined the smell the last 2-3 days. It wasn't a persistent smell either, just something I would get a whiff of every so often - it was so faint. Each time I left the bin open to air it out for a bit.

    I wish I had some cocoons. I checked, but I didn't find any. Unless the cocoons start off very, very small, I didn't see any. I think my worms were at the cusp of developing the clitellum before their untimely demise which makes this frustrating. So close...

    I will take your advice and monitor the bin in case there were cocoons that I somehow missed. As for paper, there's already plenty of paper in the bin. As you could probably surmise, I have plenty of paper and paper products available.

  • 10 years ago

    whenever I caught a whiff of the slight acrid smell

    That acrid smell is the smell of overfeeding. The excess food begins to ferment, and that's probably killed your worms. Worms may not like mint leaves, but at no point do they smell acrid. Just keep the bin going for a while, as if there are still worms there. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean that they're aren't any.


    miscel thanked Priswell
  • 10 years ago

    I just spoke a red wriggler expert who confirmed that it was the insecticidal soap treated leaves. He said I wasn't the only one to make that mistake. Dumb decision on my part to feed them the mint leaves. Now I know never feed insecticidal soap treated food, regardless how well and how many times the food was washed.

    He also said that overfeeding would be a problem if it created a poor environment for the worms, but that wasn't my case as my bin never got too wet and smelled fine whenever I sniffed it. I think the faint acrid smell I detected was that of the worms dying. Poor worms.

    I will definitely monitor the bin in case there are cocoons. Thank you for the suggestion, because I was about to jettison the contents. I'll give it a month and see if any baby red wrigglers emerge.

  • 10 years ago

    I don't do a real worm bin, but have plenty in my cold compost bin. I occasionally get requests from my freecycle group for red wigglers. I'm happy to let them come and get a couple shovelfuls of worm filled compost to start a new bin! If you are in a gardening type area, give freecycle a try! We also have a gardening type of the same free exchange in our area. You might look into that. Or even Craigslist (don't know much about that. Nancy

    miscel thanked nancyjane_gardener
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Thanks for the suggestion, nancyjane. I already looked on my local freecycle and craigslist for offers, but no luck. I didn't go as far as submitting a request which I suspect would have gotten a response. Still a great reminder to those who either cannot commit to 1 lb of red wrigglers (like myself) or cannot afford them to check both sites for free red wrigglers.

    Luckily, I was going through my potting soil recently - transferring the soil from my terracotta pots to the root pouches - when I found more red wrigglers (just a few). I'm going to give this another try and I will do my best not to poison them again.

  • 10 years ago

    Maybe try local stables/barns? I read that they may sometimes be underneath piles of old/aged manure? I looked and looked locally for worms to start my bins and finally my family took pity on me and sent me 2 lbs for my birthday ;)

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