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A new experiment on growing media for seedlings

10 years ago

With many seedlings at hand i thought of carrying out an experiment on how the type of media affects the growth of these plants. I have transplanted the seedlings in a few pots which are lined with coco fiber straight from the coconut.The remaining hollow to be filled up with coco coir pieces and manure and planted the seedling in it.

The second type media consists of red brick pieces and powder mixed with manure and the seedling planted in it.

Pics below will demonstrate what I have done.

Plan to water these daily(a little) and observe the growth in both.I selected brick powder and small chunks because I read that burnt clay soil is good for these plants. Lets see if it really is

This is the seedling in the red brick+ manure pot.

This is the one in the coco fibre lined pot some perlite from old soil also got mixed but that's not much.its mostly manure +coco chips. Both the pots are same size.

Both the seedlings are same age.about 2 months( sown on 18 July 15)

Will keep you updated !

Comments (23)

  • 10 years ago

    Can't wait to see what you find out. I had a teacher who used to root all his cuttings in Decomposed granite. He said the minerals made amazing root growth. Just some fun information.

  • 10 years ago

    Sinha I am also looking forward to seeing how your experiment turns out. Are the brick pieces of a certain size range? Or are they random sizes?

    Please take lots of photos!

    Tracy

  • 10 years ago

    Ooooh this is exciting, Sin. It will never work in my climate but I'd love to see how it will work out.

    Pagan

  • 10 years ago

    Anxiously awaiting updates on this experiment. Great idea with the bricks. Did you sift the brick dust out or leave it in the mix?

  • 10 years ago

    Great plan. Keep us up to date. Where does one get decomposed granite?

  • 10 years ago

    @Nicholas: small pieces at the bottom and dust mixed with manure in the centre around the plant

    @Cynthia: No idea as to what is decomposed granite and where to find it.

  • 10 years ago

    I looked up decomposed granite. I e seen some fools claim it is great for drainage and minerals. It is broken and weathered pieces and dust from granite, used in landscaping and horticulture. Available at Home Depot for

  • 10 years ago

    This is great forum, we are learning from each other.

    Marie

  • 10 years ago

    Cynthia Curry Russo,

    "Decomposed granite soils are often sandy in texture, drain too quickly and dry out easily. They are also usually deficient
    in essential plant nutrients. Without amendments to improve them, these
    soils may not support healthy, vigorous plants. Organic amendments can
    improve their moisture and nutrient holding capacities." http://homeguides.sfgate.com/decomposed-granite-plants-57159.html


    It is permeable which is why it is used in landscaping for walkways etc. I never claimed that it was good for drainage in soil, however some claim it can help (probably as much as sand but that's an assumption.) I would never try to use it as a total plant medium. but in the case of cuttings you usually wet the media once and spray the plant to help with transpiration the rest of the time. It is a mineral its self and like I said my Horticulture teacher in the past was very successful and impressed with the root production it caused with his cuttings. He assumed it was from its mineral content(although it obviously does not have all the minerals plants require to thrive) , and he obviously thought of it so, that he mentioned it in a propagation class. However we always either used vermiculite, or perlite if not a mixture of the two. I do plan on doing some playing around with it come spring with DG as well as Green Sand for cuttings.

    Sinha,

    Sorry for going off topic of your seedlings and on topic of cuttings. Keep us posted with their growth.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Sinha. I was just curious, as I really knew little of its use. And I'm always eager to learn. I've got plenty of sand here in FL, and use a lot of perlite in my potting mix to,improve drainage, especially with the heavy summer rains. It's usually much drier in the winter months.

  • 10 years ago

    I'm now living where all I see is natural decomposed granite. I've just used some in a mixture for one of my greenhouse raised beds. I'll be watching to see how it goes, but I just watered the new bed, and it drained very well. It is about half granite, and half things which hold water.

  • 10 years ago

    I forgot to say that I'll be interested to see how your experiments turn out, Sinha.

  • 10 years ago

    Wow, it's huge! I'm sure you will have hundreds of plants in there! I've always wanted one, but over here in High Desert we have a lot of wind, it would be blown away with the first gust, lol. I just got interested in plumeria too, but all my plants will have to go indoor for the winter.

  • 10 years ago

    That's a proper big boys grow tunnel, good work there dude :-)

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks its 15 feet long, roughly 9 1/2 ft tall and almost about the same width as height. I need to get a second layer of plastic on this week and cover the ends. I am going to add a pvc frame door with a zipper In the middle to open the plastic like a tent that I found at home depot for 10 dollars. it adheres to the plastic then you cut in the middle of the zipper. I found in the painting area around the plastic. I then hope to eventually put a pvc picket fence around the front, to spice it up a little. Ill get pics up in another thread when I am finished.

  • 10 years ago

    That is great Bob. Are you going to inflate the two pieces of plastic w air to form an insulation barrier? Works tremendously well.

    Nice set up and good to have the height also.

    Rick

  • 10 years ago
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    Hi Bob, very good green house.Wishing you lots of pachys, adeniums & plumerias blooming inside this green house! Since it is DIY....great effort with great result.

  • 10 years ago

    Bob I am wishing that I had one of these ready for my trees. All of mine have been brought inside due to the cold weather. Are those Plumeria I see in the aqua and white bowls? I could fill this bad boy quickly! What are the PVC structures for next to the plants?

    Tracy

  • 10 years ago

    Bob, looks like a great space for growing tropicals! Elena, we are in the high desert on top of a hill. We have winds all year, and some go very high. We have a new dome greenhouse which stands up to wind extremely well because of the shape. I have my Adeniums, plumeria, Hibiscus, crown of thorns, plumbago, lettuce, tomatoes, onions and peppers for my salsa. :) You can see the dome greenhouses here.

    http://geodesic-greenhouse-kits.com/

  • 10 years ago

    I don't plan on inflating between the plastic. I really hadn't put thought into that. sounds like a great idea though. I do plan on doing a second layer of plastic, and I still have to cover the ends. they will get double plastic as well. and I am going to install a zipper door. The temps are only dipping down to about 55*F currently. I hope to get the rest of the plastic up sometime this week.

    Yes those are my plumerias, I have three. I recently picked them up at a local home depot. they were 13" tall when I got them. I originally bought two. Topped one, but still left 4 leaves on it. I came onto the forum and read that it would probably die being topped at that size. good news is it just started branching where I chopped it. So it made it so far! I am very happy. But as soon as I read that I possibly killed my plumeria (which I didn't) I ran out and bought a third plant. I can't wait til they are big enough to take cuttings.

    The plastic pvc structure that is around the plants is just peace of mind to make sure they don't get too cold at night. This will be my first winter in 9b trying to overwinter tropicals and I love my plants and am very nervous!

    PMKaren, That is a nice looking kit. I really wanted a green house kit but I rent right now. and the hoop house allows me more flexibility. It will act as a greenhouse in the winter or a place to provide partial shade in the summer, while in spring it will probably remain open. I don't know if I am going to run more pvc from the side pipes to the top center pipe, to create a lath house or if I am going to just get a shade cloth to throw over it. Probably a shade cloth though. However I wish I could have a year round green house. I figured after I obtain the plastic at the hydro store to do the rest of the covering I will have spent 185 dollars roughly on constructing it. Not including the inner covering that you can only see the skeleton of around the plant shelf.


    Oh yeah the person in the picture isn't me. he helped me put it up. I was taking the picture. it was pretty windy out so we put some chairs in their to experience what the plants were experiencing. Thought it would act as a wind tunnel, but I guess because the way the wind was blowing, it was going over it and not threw it. i cut some 3/4 inch poly tubing to use as clamps I still have to order proper ones.

  • 10 years ago

    Wow, those are awesome! Thank you for the link! I always wanted a little greenhouse and these are the best!

  • 10 years ago

    That company can probably put you in touch with someone in your area who has a growing dome, Elena, We saw one in person, and were hooked.