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Vanilla orchid sickly?

10 years ago

I purchased two vanilla orchids about 1 year ago and have been keeping them in my little greenhouse since then. The base roots were planted in spag. moss and orchid bark mix. They were growing well, very green firm leaves, fast new growth with lots of aerial growth. They were doing so well I decided to treat them to a moss covered pole to grow up. Previously they were on some broken pieces of wood growing. overall in about 8 months they grew about 3-4 inches (doesn't seem like much)

To my surprise, as soon as I put them on the new support, they stopped growing, and have even started to yellow a little bit. The greenhouse stays about 60-80% humidity and temps for the day are 80-95ish and night temps about 65-70. I see on one of them there is a small new aerial root growth. Is this normal when changing anything in their environment? it has been about a month and there is really nothing noticeably changed other than the one small root growth and obviously it turning yellow.

Nay suggestions? I will post pictures when I get home from work...

Comments (14)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    There is a thread over on the orchid gallery with pics of a very healthy vanilla. But, of course the OP lives in Hawaii.

    There are some long threads down this page a bit.

    Peter C thanked arthurm2015
  • 10 years ago

    Photos would be good. But is the moss holding a lot of water? Mine put roots out on bare wood no problem. No water stays sitting over the roots except during heavy rain or me hosing them, and that's of pretty short duration. They prefer high air humidity rather than constant saturation.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for the comments! I have put some pictures below. The third image is the second orchid. The last picture is the one of the new root growth I saw. Any ideas?

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I have to say, very nice vanilla!

    This is mine

    Peter C thanked Liam Coldwell (Zone 9a)
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks shavedmonkey I'll try limiting the water a bit and see how it does.

    liam- thank you! Yours looks to be doing well! Nice new growth up top! Also, I think we have the same greenhouse! Yours may need a larger support once it starts making big aerial roots.

  • 10 years ago

    Really? It's an ogrow deluxe

  • 10 years ago

    Peter C, In looking at your photos, I see three new roots that seem to be growing anywhere but toward your new totem. I would take that as a statement from the plant that it would prefer something else to grow on. Shavedmonkey is probably correct...in his and my part of the country we would probably use a slab of Cypress with the bark still attached, or treefern.

    Try something else and see it things improve.

    Bill

  • 10 years ago

    Liam- I have the smaller four tier one. Yours is awesome!


    Bill- thanks! Yea I may try the cypress with bark. These totems are big and flimsy anyway

  • 10 years ago

    @Peter C, thanks! I had the four tier one, ruined it last year... Anyway, Bill is right, Peat Moss has showned improvement with vanilla for some people, and some people lose vigor on it... It varies, but I think bamboo will work. (Does bamboo work? If it does I was going to let my vanilla grow there forever in my greenhouse [up & down...], actually I don't think it matters for me, the metal shelving will work).

  • 10 years ago

    Has your orchid grown?

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for asking, Liam. I am so happy to say both plants have recovered. They seem to just have been shocked by the change of support. The first picture is the same plant as in the last image I posted in October. The one root that was growing in the original picture extended all the way down and into the media on the bottom. It grew towards the post so I kept it in. Then it got the new root just under the first one and that grew right towards the post and embedded itself into the moss! Also you can see the new growth node that came out near the original big root. The original stalk that was growing when I posted the first two pictures stopped growing, so the plant seems to be putting all of its efforts towards the new growth. I reduced the misting from every day to every other day and lightly fertilizing it once a week. seems to be doing the trick.


    The second and third images are of the second plant, which was the third image in my original post. This one is interesting. It hasn't grown many more roots, but it clearly has continued its original growth. Not like the other plant that started growing in a new direction. Since the last image it has grown one full new leaf and you can see the three small roots it has.


    Thank you all for your comments. In your opinion, is it growing slowly? I know the temps are not ideal anymore, considering its in a window greenhouse ,temps get down to about 64F at night (!), Im actually surprised its even growing at all in those temps.


  • 10 years ago

    Mine has rooted onto the stucco on the side of my house, and climbed quite handily. I started with six inches in January and it's now branched, and is maybe two feet at the tallest. These are bark growing epiphytes by nature. I understand that mature specimines even loose all of their original roots in the growing medium. They like high humidity, but otherwise bone dry.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    How much has it grown (@Peter)? Also Peter, i think in the jungle at night it reaches around 60 degrees, its optimal state is 60-75 degrees i believe

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