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Pedestal sink?

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

I'm knocking around the idea of going with a pedestal sink in the master bathroom. The driving factors: I do like the old-fashioned look, and it would make a modest-sized bathroom feel more open.

If we do this, I would absolutely include a storage cabinet next to it. Something like this:

My questions and thoughts:

- Is this "enough" sink? I've never not had a vanity cabinet and counter space.

- How does the storage work out? I like the first two above cabinets better because they have something of a "shelf" where things could sit. I'm thinking of a place to sit a curling iron.

- Note: We will have a small linen closet in the bathroom as well, so this next-to-the-sink cabinet would ONLY need to hold everyday grooming items. AND I'd go with a medicine cabinet mirror, something like the first picture.

- All the photos I find show TWO sinks, which isn't something I care to do. Would one be an acceptable look?

- If we go with a pedestal sink, does it follow that we should also go with a clawfoot tub? I mean, the two seem "alike" in terms of style. Would a tub set in a deck look mis-matched?

- I like the pedestal sinks that have an "around the back" splash guard. What's this called? Anything I ought to know about this detail?

- Any other thoughts on pedestal sinks?

Comments (12)

  • 10 years ago

    that's an English style pedestal sink (link below to some). Sounds like you want a claw foot tub to match this sink.

    http://www.vintagetub.com/bathroom/bathroom-sinks/pedestal-sinks.html?utm_id=IDA5M&gclid=COPLrZ3euckCFYP1HwodiV8Fpg

  • 10 years ago

    Are you both the type who will put everything away in the cabinet so the sink remains bare or are you like DH and me who tends to leave things on the counter? If the latter, either do two sinks or forget about doing a pedestal sink.

  • 10 years ago
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    No bath vanities in our house. Storage is in wall or freestanding cabinets. But we don't own a lot of products.

    DH insisted on a washstand/console (it is a double) in the master because he wanted landing space to put his stuff next to the sink while he is shaving. Usually the only things sitting on the console are the soap and a glass with toothbrushes/toothpaste. We have some space built into the adjacent wall where I have brushes, lotion, etc.

    In the baths with pedestals we have glass shelves over the sink for additional landing space.

    We have some pedestals with an integral backsplash and some without. When I was looking a couple of years ago, first choice would have been a single-hole pedestal sink with the integral backsplash, but the only ones I could find in our price range were very contemporary and did not go with our house. So we have the regular pedestals (Kohler Memoirs) with single hole faucets and the integral backsplash pedestals (Waterworks Studio Alden) with widespread faucets.

    My folks have a single Kohler Memoirs Stately 30" with the metal console legs in their master (mom wanted the console base rather than pedestal base to hold towels). They have a built-in tub and I think it works nicely together. If it were mine I would have done a freestanding tub but they did not want the hassle of cleaning around it -- even though I offered to clean it for them.

    If you go this route, you will also get to have fun specifying your exposed plumbing (examples). Good luck!

  • 10 years ago
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    So the "backsplash" makes it an English style sink. Good information. I think I prefer this style because it's prettier /less contemporary AND because I like the idea of it protecting the wall ... even though I'd have tile behind the sink, so that doesn't seem to be particularly logical.

    We currently have one 48" vanity with one sink ... and we each put our things into the drawers on "our side". Except for a soap dish, a toothbrush holder and a little thingy for rings, we don't really have things "out", at least not on a regular basis.

    Landing space. Yes, that's what I'm concerned about -- I'm concerned about having adequate space to bring things out during use. I like the idea of the glass shelf above the sink -- I had seen those, but they hadn't really registered with me as "very useful" until your post prompted me to google images. I could still have drawers -- but in an adjacent cabinet they'd be a step farther than drawers in a vanity. My biggest concern is hair items; that's the only thing I really "set out" on the cabinet while I'm getting ready.

    I had thought about widespread faucets ... it seems that most people use a center set on pedestal sinks, and I don't see why anyone would purposefully scrunch everything together like that. I really want a single-piece bathroom faucet (to simply cleaning), but the few examples I found online looked "too contemporary" for pedestal sinks.

    Do ALL pedestal sinks come with the plumbing holes pre-drilled? So I want to be sure to choose a model that'll allow for a widespread set?

    I was not thinking about exposed plumbing. With a pedestal (not a console), the plumbing goes into the pedestal, right? At least most of the plumbing.

    Kats, I also love the hexagon base! Are you saying you regret the size because it's on the short side? I keep reading that that's a problem with many bathroom vanities.

    Question about pricing: I see pedestal sinks priced just over $100 ... and pedestal sinks price in the $800-900 range. Size makes a difference, but what about quality? How can much difference exist in quality? I mean, it's a basin made to catch water. A $2 bucket can do that -- we're just talking style here. Ignoring the super-cheap outlyers, is a mid-priced pedestal sink just as good as the high-priced models?

    And two of you are saying claw foot tub would be preferred as a partner for a pedestal sink? I was leaning that way. Our tub gets heavy use, and my husband especially is fussy about the details. His biggest issue being that it must have a molded seat and arm rests. I insist that it's a deep tub with integrated grab bars. And we neither one want a large tub; rather, we want to stay small to conserve water /fill quickly /stay hot longer. We were fairly well settled on the BainUltra Amma 6030 (60" long, 30" wide, using 39 gallons of water) -- though it doesn't look very nice here, mushed up in an alcove ... we were going to set it in a nice deck with a window above it, and I hope it'd look nicer in that setting:


    The same company /same product line offers a freestanding version:
    and it checks all our boxes -- molded seat, arm rest, grab bars, deep tub -- but it's 72" long, 42" wide and eats up 54 gallons of water.

    Does anyone know of a different company that makes a freestanding tub (preferably claw foot) that would include the features we want?

    Thanks, all, for your help.

  • 10 years ago
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    Oops, missed the part about you wanting the backsplash turn. I think if you choose a sink that is fairly simple it could work with either the drop-in or the freestanding tub you show. Here are a few:

    Sunrise Specialty

    Cheviot (this is only 22" but you can get single-hole)

    Waterworks

    This is the Alden we got without the full turn, but I don't see it on the website anymore?

    Alden Pedestal Sink with Backsplash | waterworks.com · More Info
    Pricing: our pedestal sinks all fell in the middle of the range you mentioned. For example I think Waterworks offers a pretty substantial trade discount so website price is not necessarily a good comparison. If you can see the sink in person before you buy, even better. The plumbing store rep told me the main quality differences were consistency in fit/finish and (lack of) cracking -- he said basically you want a vendor who will stand by their product in case you get a dud.

    Faucet spread: Yes, the pedestal sinks will be pre-formed for faucets. Like you, we also found that most of the single-hole faucet sets looked contemporary for us, but we ended up with the Waterworks Studio Highgate single lever on our single hole sinks, for us it is suitably retro. (See above re pricing)

    Plumbing: Sorry I only glanced at the houzz article initially linked but now I see it is only about p-traps, which indeed would be hidden by the pedestal. Edited to now link to examples of supply kits.

  • 10 years ago
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    Well, I'm not absolutely married to the idea of the integrated backsplash, but from looking at pictures I think they're nicer. I don't think the backsplash is a hill upon which to die.

    I went to Lowe's yesterday and looked at the pedestal sinks. Yes, all three of them. I like them and am definitely going this direction. Things I noted -- and I'd appreciate any thoughts or things you fear I might've failed to notice:

    - All three sinks I saw in person had three close-together holes drilled. I'm thinking this would only allow for a 4" centerset faucet ... whereas I want an easier-to-clean wide set faucet. Because cleaning is a never-ending chore, I think this is a priority.

    - Though two models were the same size, one had a large sink and smaller edges ... and the other had a small sink with wider edges. I'm not sure which I prefer. On the one hand, brushing my teeth doesn't really require a large sink. But what would I really sit on those edges? Thoughts?

    - I've decided that storage isn't an issue at all. We'll have an opening medicine cabinet in front of the sink ... a cabinet with drawers and shelves next to the sink ... and we could also have open shelves on the wall next to the sink. And I looked at toothbrush holders, etc. that hang on the wall. No, not an issue at all.

    What I fear IS an issue is the tub ... I'm going to open a new thread and ask about that.

    Thanks for your input, all! I continue to welcome your thoughts.

  • 10 years ago
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    I thought about using a pedestal in our MB. One issue was where to keep cleaning supplies and a toilet plunger. The toilet bowl brush would need to sit on the floor beside the toilet. I didn't want the pedestal near the wall as I don't like cramped sinks. That meant the cabinet would go in the corner and the pedestal would go between the cabinet and toilet. But there's a tub on the other side of the toilet so there's no cabinet to attach a TP holder, and I don't like the TP stands.

    I didn't care for the integrated backsplash models. Too Victorian. Is that the style of your new home? I liked some of the Toto models. I would use at least a 24" as the sink should be the focal point of the bathroom. I would prefer to just have the sink and the cabinet on its own wall.

  • 10 years ago

    Point taken concerning the toilet brush ... but our layout will work: The toilet'll be at the back of the bathroom, so it'll be between the storage cabinet and the wall ... so the brush can hide behind the toilet, and the TP holder can be placed either on the side of the storage cabinet or the wall. I can see that this would be problematic in a different layout.

    I don't know that we're going particularly Victorian, but we do lean towards traditional, vintage, nostalgic. I haven't looked at the Toto models ... but I will.

  • 10 years ago

    we had a pedestal sink for 10 years and I hated every minute of it. no room for my stuff, no where to hide stuff, etc.

  • 10 years ago

    Did you have storage items around it, but it wasn't enough ... or did you have no storage spots at all?

  • 10 years ago

    I love having two sinks in our MBA. He cleans his. I clean mine. We can use the sinks at the same time.

    Ours are American Standard 20 X 30-wide with basin 12 X 18-wide. (I wash my hair in my sink; hate the feel of hair on my body when washing in a shower.) These have good 'laying space'; no back ledges -- no troubles with the painted wall behind them. I ordered them from a plumbing supply store.

    If you want the old fashioned look of a pedestal, I think you would want two controls, not a single control faucet. (You don't have to go as far 'back' as two faucets/no mixer!) My faucets have white porcelain handles -- more 'old look'. The plumbing will be evident as it comes out of the wall (or floor). It's not 'hidden' by the pedestal.

    Our carpenter made our medicine cabinets -- deep boxes w/electrical outlets for recharging. It's easiest to buy a big mirror and have it hinged onto the front of a box made to size. Closed, ours look like 'just mirrors', flush with the wall with push-release closures. Our cabinets are 20 X 30 with mirrored backs.

    Our linen closet is in an alcove beside my sink. It's where I keep my hair dryer. My daily-use stuff is in the medicine cabinet. Only our soap dishes sit out on the sinks.