Where do you live. And you could bud it to other trees but none will fruit until they get older because the source tree isn't old enough.

i just bought one because from seed just takes too long. Btw sumo and dekopon are trade names. Shiranu is the variety name and if you can order from Flordia Harris has them.

I live in the SF Bay area, Sunset zone 16. I'm not looking to force early fruiting, I think it still has another 4 years to go for that. Just looking to get the best growth/care I can.

It's illegal for you to graft them

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It's state law that only certified clean budwood can be used for grafting.

its illegal to use budwood from your own trees.

Sorry but if you want to follow the law your gonna just have to settle for that one tree. Unless you can get more seeds.

keep coming around, when the variety becomes availabile in California it will be a big deal here. Then you can order budwood that you can legally use.

You can take small cutting and root them to make more trees. That is within the law.

Only certified budwood can be used for propagation. Rooting the budwood is still propagation.

Your encouraging skirting the spirit of the law, if not the law itself.

Dekopon is nice. But legal budwood is almost ready to be released. He will be able to eat fruit of legally budded trees before his will be old enough to produce. Therefore there is no reason to break the law.

His tree is certified disease free from the fact it is from seed He has the one tree with him and he wanted to bud a few more for him self in his yard. I would think we are safe. I agree rooting would be skirting the law if he were selling them across the state or more. If the bud wood is available I agree with you that he will get fruit sooner but only if his grafting skills are 10,000% better than mine. I plan to bud from my Meiwa tree from Harris and from the tree you sent me. Both were licensed to be safe across country. I have found a few people to come to my grafting party to graft citrus trees for us all.

No it's not. This isn't a game. His tree is not clean until a lab says it is.

You live in ohio, I live in Michigan, if we spread disease in our area it doesn't matter. No trees live outside anyway. No farmers livelihoods depend on citrus in our area.

if you lived in California, bought a certified disease free tree, and grafted from it the day you bought it you would be breaking the law.

Im not calling either of you a name but only scum would break the law and endanger a billion dollar industry. Please respect that California does have hlb, it takes years for trees to become symptomatic, and it is possible his tree is infected. Doubling or quadrupling the amount of trees will exponentially increase risk of disease spread.

its blantent disrespect for the law that caused hlb to enter the state in the first place. Florida is fucked, California has a chance. Remember at any point all citrus plants from Florida can become illegal to ship out of state again. It's illegal to ship out of state from Texas. If California goes too then where will we get our trees?

I can see your point on this. It seems to me that trees should not be grown from seed If you want to be totally safe. That probably won't ever happen. There are too many people that would have no way of knowing about the threats to citrus. I only know because of this forum.

he funny thing about this is if the OP is as good at grafting as I am there will be no problem at all.

Pip. For my own education please correct me if im wrong but the seedling would be considered clean but just not "certified". The disease as far as I know doesnt pass into the seeds right?

Seeds do not spread disease as far as we know. So growing them is safe. But if you look at his tree it's pretty obvious it hasn't been a seed in at least 2 years. More than enough time to become infected if there are acp with hlb in the area. Because it takes years for trees to become symptomatic it is possible. Which is why the law is what it is. No propagation with uncertified budwood.

I posted this on another thread but I think it is of interest on this thread too. A link to the updated citrus quarantine map for California. A lot of info on ACP on the page also.

https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/pe/InteriorExclusion/acp_quarantine.html#maps

It's released. Under the early release program. So if you grafted today you would get fruit faster than with your tree.

OK, now that propagation question is settled, does anyone mind giving me tips on pruning/care?

I agree with Steve with pruning. Pruning for shape and size is awesome and needed. But you need to let the tree grow unimpeded for as long as possible then after it reaches its size begin shaping.

You can always bend down branches to change shape but preserve the leaf mass.