Spidermites since hatched on both plants so I see where the damage came from. I spray with soapy water and I think about hydrogen peroxide on the top layer of soil but I do not want to kill beneficial micro organisms. I also think about picking off all the leaves or most of them. Where is everybody?

I dosed the stems and soil all the way through with dilute H2O2 and picked off all folage. Then I covered stems in plastic bags. After a week of misting under grow lights, new growth appears at many nodes. I am watering with pond water to re establish good microbes.