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Ideas for a climber?

HI, I'm looking for ideas for 2 roses to climb a 7 foot arbor. I kind of want to plant a climber on both sides. The area I'm placing the arbor is a high traffic area so the fewer the thorns the better and continuous bloom would be great. I was thinking about Eden, Polka, or Peggy Martin but any suggestions would be great! I'm in zone 6.

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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I don't grow any of those 3 but would like to! The prettiest arbor picture I've seen used Eden with the miniature climber Jeanne Lajoie.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Wow! That's stunning! What about the thornless climber, Zephrine Drouhin - I'm sure I've misspelled that. :-)

  • 10 years ago

    How gorgeous!
    If i recall, Polka has sizable thorns, but it is a very beautiful rose.


  • 10 years ago

    Zephrine Drouhin--I have not grown it, but from what I've read here, it is beautiful but has major blackspot problems in some regions.

    You might look at David Austin's The Wedgwood--same pink/white colors, full blooms, probably reblooms better than Eden does (it is notorious for not being a heavy re-bloomer), and has fairly good blackspot resistance.

    Kate

  • 10 years ago

    I am in zone 6a, Jeanne Lajoie doesn't climb in my garden, I have 6-7, they are 4-5' tall. Peggy Martin is very hardy, but mine are still small (2nd year). Eden is pretty, I lost one to the winter, just planted another one in Aug, hope it can take the cold here. Wedgwood is pretty and repeats pretty fast, I just planted one in the spring, love it. What about Renae and Annie Laurie McDowell, these are thornless too like Peggy Martin.

  • 10 years ago

    I recently posted the photos below on another thread of my Colette, a climber and Romantica rose from Meilland. She's tough as nails and very cold hardy, but she does have thorns. Lots of people walk through this arch, but with just a little snipping, there have been no thorn problems. Diane

    Colette in 2014--she's just making to the top of the arbor, and she is one year old.

    A partial shot of Colette in 2015--she's just made it up and over the arch.

    A close up of a Colette bloom

    Diane

  • 10 years ago

    Love your entryway arch of roses, Diane. : )

    Kate

  • 10 years ago

    I love seeing these photos each time. The contrast of the pink of the climber with the yellow of Julia Child in my opinion works beautifully. Your front garden must stop traffic, Diane.

  • 10 years ago

    Wow, Diane! You're garden is beautiful. What are you feeding your roses to make them look SO stunning? :-)

  • 10 years ago

    Wow Diane your Colette has amazing flower coverage!

  • 10 years ago

    Back to your question- Eden is probably one of the most beautiful roses there is, but it can be cold sensitive and I would not put it in the "continuous bloom" category. Actually, I have seen it labelled as a once bloomer- so it may not suit the purposes you describe . Anyway, I think it is so beautiful it is worth it.

    Mine has thorns but they are not as bad as some of the others.

  • 10 years ago

    I'm bringing this thread back to life for the Eden/Jeanne LaJoie archway photo! (But I also LOVE Colette!)

  • 10 years ago

    Oh no! Now I feel like ripping out my 13 y.o. Martin Frobishers and replacing them with Colette who looks gorgeous! Has to be cold hardy and easy-care here. We have some late frosts and lots of fungal diseases blowing in on the wind.

    Linda

  • 10 years ago

    Here I go again, but this an update of Colette in 2016 earlier this spring. Diane

    Colette

    Colette, looking out over a massive Ascot (one plant)

  • 10 years ago

    Is Colette a similar colour to Eden? It look more warm in some pics. Just wondering how it would go with Jean Lajoie. I can't get that image out of my mind.

  • 10 years ago

    If you like Eden, you may like Pretty in Pink Eden, it's more fragrant and hardy than Eden. Diane's garden must stop the traffic! :-) My Colette band is growing, can't wait for the 1st bloom.

  • 10 years ago

    I am very happy with my Harlekin aka Kiss of Desire. It's my first climber, and it's very floriferous & healthy.

  • 10 years ago

    Wow, your roses looks even more beautiful than last year Diane!

    If I can grow these as climbers, I think Colette and Eden would be a wonderful combination grown together.

  • 10 years ago

    Again, to repeat--Eden is beautiful, but not the strongest re-bloomer--in fact, some people claim it is a once bloomer. Mine re-blooms, but not heavily.

    What several of us were suggesting above is that you substitute Austin's The Wedgewood climber for Eden. Wedgewood is quite floriferous and has good rebloom--also has better bs resistance than Eden does. And it sports the same colors of white with pink centers. The blooms aren't quite as beautiful as Eden's blooms, but are still very attractive.

    In other words, combine The Wedgewood climber with Jeanne LaJoie. No problem matching colors there also.

    Well, it's one idea. I'm sure there are other possibilities out there also.

    Kate

  • 10 years ago

    Got Peggy Martin as a cutting took in November when I purchased it in April it had a couple of 5 inch canes since then gained several feet and now has several shoulder height canes and seem to. Be quite vigorous

  • 10 years ago

    Peggy Martin has the advantage of being nearly thornless with flexible canes, too. But she, also, is not much for rebloom.

    Here is my PM in full glory. My side of the fence:

    My neighbor's side of the fence:


    The above photos are of both sides of one 5-year-old plant on a wire fence. I would love to have her on an archway or pergola, along with Zephirine Drouhin, also nearly thornless, for color accent and fragrance. Both bloom generously at the same time in my garden.

    Zephirine Drouhin:


    Peggy Martin also has the advantage of being quite cold-hardy. She holds onto her leaves longer than almost anything else in our zone-5 garden, and has little winter die-back.

    Sandra

  • 10 years ago

    Are you only considering pink climbers, or are you open to other colours?

  • 9 years ago

    nana, your arbor is stunning, truly eye candy.

  • 9 years ago

    Sandra, are you sure yours is Peggy Martin? Because mine won' t grow in zone 6a, 1' tall after 3 years. I have 4 of them.

  • 9 years ago
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    Looking at the first photo on this post of an arbor with light pink blooms on it, I believe two different pink climbers have been trained together, intertwined.

    There is a bloom partially obstructing the wooden vertical frame of the arbor, about half way up the frame in the left side of the photo. The frame is probably 1 3/4" to 2" wide. The rose in question in front of it looks to be almost 4" in diameter. That's too big for Jeannie Le Joie. There appear to be small roses the right size for JLJ, intertwined with a different, larger flowering rose.

    What do you think?

  • 9 years ago

    Moses you are right. The posting says JLJ and Eden.

  • 9 years ago

    Summersrhythm - Yes, that is Peggy Martin. I have three from Chamblees. They do quite well for me now, though they did take several years to come into their full blooming glory.

    Above is the one on the other end of the fence from the one shown in my previous post, behind a ZD.

    The middle plant I haven't a photo of, since I accidentally chopped it down at the base - don't ask! - the year before last. Fortunately it is recovering nicely and I expect it to be lovely next season.

    gibsongirl74_gw (zone 6 CT) thanked Sandra - Sunset Zone 2- USDA 5b
  • 9 years ago

    Sandra,

    Es refrescante el PM?

  • 9 years ago

    Hi everyone, thank you all for your response. I ended up moving my Zephrine to climb the arbor. It was in a horrible spot and then I planted Victorian memory which is supposed to be very winter hardy. I also planted polka but in a different spot. I will probably find a spot for eden because it was so highly recommended. Our weather is really hit or miss for winter. Last year we had. O winter but this year is cold. I also have a few more roses on order for next year so w will see how they do.


  • 9 years ago

    Thanks Sandra. Nice photos of PM! Now I have hope for my 4 PM, 3 of them were from Chamblees, 1 was from a nursery in FL as a small band.

    Victorian memory is super winter hardy here and it grows pretty fast and repeats well. My 4 ZDs aren't good repeaters so far. 1 of them repeated more than others 3, it had blooms here and there. I dug up my Eden put it in a pot this summer, it had really bad winter dieback almost to the ground after last winter, it's 6' tall now.

  • 9 years ago

    There are some beautiful disease resistant climbing roses now from Kordes. I used to have Zepherine Droughin but as dublinbay mentioned, it does get blackspot and is not a vigorous rebloomer after its 1st flush in June in my area. Red climber recommended is Amadeus; yellow climber is Golden Gate; pink climber is Jasmina.

  • 9 years ago

    jazzmom, the HMF pics of Amadeus are beautiful! Do the petals fall of cleanly? From where did you buy yours? Jasmina has been on my radar, but when I saw it at the Columbus Garden of Roses, it was a dried mess after blooming. Do you find it needs deadheading to look tidy?

    The pics I've recently seen of Polka are amazing! summersrhythm, thanks for the intro to Victorian Memory. So many climbers I've never heard of, but need to investigate.

  • 9 years ago

    I believe the petals fall off cleanly on Amadeus. I don't own it but the Cooperative Extension Demo Rose Garden has it on an arbor in East Meadow, NY. I get my roses which are own root and ungrafted from either Chamblee Nursery in TX or Roses Unlimited in SC.

  • 9 years ago
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    El Jardin - Peggy Martin no tiene fragancia y es major plantaria en la parte de atras del jardin. Su apariencia es espectaular cuando esta floreciendo. :-)

  • 9 years ago

    Translation for us who comprende Ingles-- El Jardin (poster) - Peggy Martin has no fragrance and is major plant in the back of the garden. Its appearance is spectacular when it's blooming. :-)