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Growtainer Thoughts?

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

I've been watching the development by a couple different companies of a commercial hydroponic garden encased within a single 40' shipping container.

But at $70k per unit, I wonder how profitable they could really be? You could only grow small crops like lettuce and maybe choi.

In warmer climates, these could be a challenge to keep cool.

There is no room in these to move either. If it's 5 degrees out, you still need to clean trays. You still need a place to store stuff and to package the produce.

Thoughts?

Comments (13)

  • 10 years ago

    Around port cities or even big industry citys those containers go for next to nothing. I can buy a 40' here for $3k and adapt to what id like to grow. To me it dont make sense untill the zombie apocalipse where you would need a heavy metal container. Hoop houses can be built for under $200 and have natural light. Honestly growing in one of those might just be enough for a search warrant. Lol

    Only upside i really see is they are stackable so footprint could be small going vertical.

  • 10 years ago

    I calculate 2500 of whatever they show growing (small herbs maybe, small lettuce?) Say the trailer is $3500, That's $27 a plant. Actually not great and I see no fluid tanks or aerating system. Hopefully outside? I'm thinking it's for a pre-made compound, i.e. survivalists not wanting to setup their own green house etc. If the walls are reinforced, you can drop them into the ground and stack them; 4 units is 10,000 plants in 432,200 ft3, or 1800sq ft. Pretty compact. BUT it's small plants. I'm sure there's some market for it, but not a lot.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Agree, growtainer claims their system is patent pending. I was looking at it from the lens of... Could a guy buy a couple of these and put them on a vacant lot near where the demand is and actually turn a profit. But at $70k/per I can't imagine a reasonable roi would exist.

    However, when Zombies are involved the roi changes drastically.

    Let's say this thing can handle 2500 heads of lettuce at once and you have a 30 day grow cycle and 30 days per month but you want to sell some each day. You could sell about 80 heads per day. I don't know what a restaurant will pay for lettuce, but if it's $4 per head you could rake in a whopping $320 per day or about $40/hr. With the lot rental, debt service, utilities, fert, seeds, that would be greatly dilluted.

  • 10 years ago

    CNN Had this video regarding 'Freight Farms' today. One guy appears to have 4 or 5 in a lot and claims to have found a break-even point. At $70k per container and 2 FTEs, I still don't believe the math. CNN's Video on the Topic

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Looks like a totally different arrangement than the growtainers. Vertical towers using led strips is interesting. Although I hope the heads I saw him pulling were for a demonstration and not his actual for sale crops unless he harvest's at 16-20 days those were tiny and couldn't weight worth the effort.

    Any sense i think their are much more effective ways to suburban garden and cost much less. Im kinda frugal So i tend to think of more cost vs profit but some i guess want to pay for automation. I should just bite the bullet, buy a container, kratky the hell out of shelves and t8 floros and see what i could do. Lol

    I could harvest, drain tray, clean, refill and plant 80 heads a day in an hr or two.

    Just visited freight farms website...msrp is $82k On their growtainer....ummmm...outragous

  • 10 years ago
    I thought about building a room in my barn the same size and tinker with it. I suspect that guy got a deep discount to get started. I love the concept but you can buy a crazy amount of hydro gear for 82k! He still needs a water source and storage somewhere. Without a cooler everything picked would have to be delivered same day.
  • 10 years ago

    I'll help!

  • 10 years ago
    Here is the farm's website and links to other related videos. it sounds like they're doing fairly well. http://www.cornerstalk.com/2015/04/a-star-is-born.html?m=1
  • 10 years ago
    Here's some of his math. Does it sound reasonable?

    "A one unit grows about 6,000 plants and that translates to about 60 pounds of basil a week per unit, year round," Cooney said. That’s the same yield as a traditional one acre farm plot. " What would a lb of basil sell for?
  • 10 years ago

    Its more finding the buyer for basil in that quantity. A 2oz package goes for $2.99 at Giant E. If sold by that aspect you could potentially get $24 a pound, but considering youll never get prime $ out of quantity say half that. So estimate $10 after everyone else gets their markup (packaging, display, coolers, storage) if you are lucky. ($600)

    Now figure in nutes, seeds, water, power, media, cleaning supply, equipment failure replacement (unless warranty), lot rent, sewer, etc....give or take 10¢ a plant....$600....

    Am i confused or did i just pay no one to brake even?


  • 10 years ago

    In the production thread here....I decided to do the 4x4 area of greens under a 400 HPS. Soon after they germinate ill be posting the results of 64 heads a month. If i had the space i would try a 5x5 but kinda restricted.

  • 10 years ago
    Found a new one! Only $53k!

    From a company named hortamericas but at least they don't claim that this is intended for full scale crop production.

    http://hortamericas.com/catalog/controlled-environment-technology/green-pod/
  • 10 years ago

    I guess I am too much of a builder to ever consider a pre built chamber and to me the price tag on any of these is over the budget of a hobby grower. Don't get me wrong, I am sure there is a market for them and they appear to be effective at some production as claimed but a break even point seems near impossible. I'm sure somehow they would have a place in urban gardening and if space was completely limited I see a niche market, although I live inner city I still have enough yard to grow enough veggies for quite a few families it makes me wonder where a place is that within a few miles a garden plot could not be established.

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