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Adenium smart pots, Geo pots, root pouch

10 years ago
So I recently went to the store and bought 2-1 gal smart pots, 1-2 gal root pouch, 1- 1 gal root pouch, and 1- 1 gal geopot.
I really like how the smart pots are wider rather than taller, but I like the quality of the root pouches although they are taller compared to the same sized smart pots. The Geo pot is also wider like the smart pot, it has a more heavy duty fabric compared to the rest, I'm just not a fan of how the Geo pot has velcro up one side to help take the plant out, the sides are a bit more rigid than both the smart pot and the root pouch which is nice too. The root pouch appears to be more rigid than the smartpot as well.

So a few days ago I potted my A. Multiflorum into the 2 gal pouch. I put my A. Somalense tanzania in a 1 gal pouch.
Today I planted my other A. Somalense Tanzania in a 1 gal smart pot, I put one of my Arabicum (genetics unknown) into the other 1 gal smart pot.

I then used the Geo pot on my oldest Fockea Edulis. I raised the caudex on that one too.

I used a mix of 1 part coir croutons, to 1 part clay grow stones and 1 part coarse perlite. After I potted everyone up I added a light top sprinkle of 14-14-14 slow release fertilizer. Earlier this week I tried to add it into the mix. Dressing it at the end worked better though.
I rinsed each part of my media and soaked it in ph balanced water for a little over 5 minutes while I continued mixing the media.

While at my new local hydroponic store in found a new type of grow stone I plan on replacing my perlite with when I run out. It is made of heated and spun glass. The guy at the store said it doesn't break down as quickly as perlite and when it does the plant can use it as a source of silica.

Knowing that in other countries they often use rice hulls for their adeniums, which is also a really good source of silica, it really peaked my interests. It is a little bigger in size compared to coarse perlite which I like as well.

My only question for my adenium forum friends, who are using a coir and or growstones or both mixed in their fabric pots..... how often do you water?

Now time for the pics...

Comments (16)

  • 10 years ago

    this is my A. tanzania somalense after I took it out of its clay out today.
    this is my fockea edulis that I potted up today...

    and my fockea edulis after I potted it up. ( sorry I know this is an adenium forum. I just love my fockea though.)

  • 10 years ago

    Hello Bob, I don't use these type of pots so am wondering how you manage to move them around without squishing the rootball and possibly disturbing the media amongst the roots? Do you sit them in saucers I wonder? If you are anything like me I am always rearranging pots etc! It will be interesting to see whether you get the limescale/mould we have both spoken about growing on the outsides of these given time. Your plants look good, I hope they do well in their new homes.

    Gill UK

  • 10 years ago
    Oops sorry I couldn't see the pics in my first post yet.
  • 10 years ago

    I did try smart pots but found what Gill mentions happened - the grittier the mix is, the more it shifts when pots is not rigid. I don't know for a fact it hurt my roots but I always felt like it did so I stopped using them for the most part, the occasional exception being plants outside that rarely get moved. None of my adenium fall into this category.

    Can you roll down the top of the root pouches to make the height more to your liking? One thing I did like about the flexibility of fabric was that you have options like that, but in the end I've gravitated towards rigid pots - can't even stand most plastic pots these days, I feel better knowing the roots have a sturdy home.

    Daniel

  • 10 years ago
    I'm in the middle of changing out all my plants into these fabric pots and its new media. I want to phase the perlite out all together because from what I understand it doesn't help with fluoride and I already have a hard water problem. I really like the pots and the only problem I have is I have to pick the pot up with both hands, no more just pinching the sides. that's okay though. yes I can fold down that one pot. I don't though.
  • 10 years ago

    Bob, the media looks terrific! The plants are going to be so happy in these new pots. Let me tell you!

    The Growstone GS2 made of recycled glass is what I use too. The size is great, especially to pair with your croutons.

    So to answer your question about watering. Here is my advice.

    When you pot up a new set of plants into these, lift them up while they are dry. Get an idea of the weight when they are completely dry. Then watering them you can see each day by picking up the pot how much water is being consumed based on weight. This will give you a baseline for creating a schedule, but watch since plants have different watering requirements. Those pushing out leaves and flowers consume a greater amount of water than those that are semi-dormant.

    I keep mine in plastic trays to prevent runoff water from dripping onto the heating mats below. I keep my trays elevated about 1.5" above my heating mats. I keep them from touching, as it does lead roots astray.

    Also, I adjust the tallness of the pot to suit the plant. Don't feel the need to fill them to the rim and keep them tall. Your Arabicums will require a more wider pot and less depth.

    I don't have any problems handling the fabric pots and disturbing the roots. If anything, the pot flexes to prevent damaging the roots when you are shuffling things around.

    Keep up the outstanding work!

    Tracy


  • 10 years ago
    Tracy, thanks for the advice. I really like those glass growstones!
    I'm going to check my plants today one of them should be completely dry today if not close. then I can get an idea of the weight. The only problem I have had with moving them around in these pots, is I have to use two hands, which isn't a big deal. mine are completely full but in the future I will be lowering the media as they swell. I will probably reuse that media at that point.
    I'm really liking the Geo bag it appears to be alot sturdier than the others, I just hated the idea of the velcro up the side, it hasn't presented any problems yet and it looks real good. As far as performance compared to the others I don't know.

    I was talking with Martin and Gill on another thread I think my yearling arabicums were suffering from a water hardness issue. I'm about to flush them with cleaner water. I need to get more fabric pots too.

    Smart pot fit into my budget better than the rest of them.
  • 10 years ago

    Hi Bob,

    The Geo Pot you have is their "Transplant Pot" (hence the Velcro). The rest of their line doesn't have that. (Just so happens I watched a video about them a few days ago.) :-)

    I myself am experimenting with Air - Pots. (A bit more expensive.)

    Rob

  • 10 years ago
    I'll have to look into geo pots again, I really like their quality. I just used several more smartpot and immediately wished I went with the Geo pots instead for stability. I'm going to search some videos about it myself, thanks!
  • 10 years ago
    I want to make another comment about the Geo pots, I went to buy a few more of the ones with the velcro down the side and I saw on their website they have a bunch of different fabric pots, they have them with handles so you can easily move them they have a half gallon option which is 7" diameter like their 1 gallon pots but only 4.5 inches tall, or I can get the 1 gallon and fold it down that one is 6 inches tall. I also thought it was cool that they have a squat pot option it starts with a 2 gallon which is a 10.5 inch diameter , that one is 5.5 inches tall. I wish I had room in my tent to put all my pots in that one. I think I am going to order 1 or 2 half gallon pots and the same with 1 gallon pots to see how it works out. I think I might opt for the handles as well. That is the hardest part of these pots, grabbing them and picking them up.
    just thought I would share, between the 3, geopot are sown to last like I mentioned before I love the quality compared to the others.
  • 10 years ago

    I'll have to try a few of them. I also prefer the ones with handles. I like that they offer a half gallon size too.

  • 10 years ago

    Does the air flow really help? Do you elevate? I would think it would be prone to mildew where it sits. I will be bonsai-ing and the big pots sound to big or do they work well during the root grow out and then put them into bonsai shallow.pots?

  • 10 years ago

    I have been using the 1/2g in their brand. To me they are thin and flimsy. You can see thru my pots. As my roots grow the pot is now misshaped.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for the response... i think i will pass on them. what other brand has the 1/2 gallon?