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Palm seedlings

10 years ago

I recently germinated three canary island date palm seeds. Right now, only the roots are out; no leaves yet. The roots on each seed are about two-three inches long, outgrowing the plastic bag I germinated them in, and all without a sign of leaves. I was just wondering, what should I do next? Should I go ahead and plant them in the pot I have prepared, or wait until the leaves are out?

Also, while on the topic, one of the roots has a large split in it, almost from top to bottom. Does anyone have an idea of what might have caused this?

Thanks!

Comments (21)

  • 10 years ago

    The roots have been getting even longer; I will have to make a decision very soon.

  • 10 years ago

    I'd go ahead and plant. A lot of palms (and cycads) put down a deep initial root before sending up a leaf. Make sure you use very deep pots or else the roots will end up coming out through the bottom.

  • 10 years ago

    First off, THANK YOU for posting! I was wondering, will this hamper the growth at all, does this have any negativities?

    The seeds germinated about 9 days ago, how long do you think it will take for the palm to put out the first leaf (if in proper conditions)?

    I have a nice pot to plant in, about one foot deep. Do you think this will be enough?

    Anyways, I will probably post updates as/if the plants grow, maybe even pictures!

    Thanks for the advice!

  • 10 years ago

    Just finished up transplanting, and while in the process, I noticed one of the seedlings had a small leaf spear on it (yay)! I will post updates in coming months!

  • 10 years ago

    Congratulations, you're becoming a palm-parent!

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you for your help!

  • 10 years ago

    UPDATE:

    A second leaf spear has has made it's appearance above the soil's surface. Still waiting for a third!! The growth of all sprouts has slowed down a lot since I transplanted them into the larger but cooler space.

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    10 years ago

    They seem to be doing well! :D

  • 10 years ago

    UPDATE #2:

    One plant is still lagging behind a bit, but the other has its first seedling leaf out! To the top of the leaf it is about 3 inches tall. I am hoping to post pictures once I get that figured out.

  • 10 years ago

    You should be heading into your warm weather soon. They'll really show their appreciation then. I just got some palm seeds sent to me by a friend. Hopefully I'll have a lot of healthy little palm tops poking out of pots before long too.

  • 10 years ago

    Yes! I am sure they will speed up a bunch, especially when I put them outside in the summer. My definite favorite plant is a palm seedling. I don't know what it is about them, but I just like looking at them! We are getting to that stage!

  • 10 years ago

    UPDATE #3:

    We still have three plants, all of which seem to be doing really great! The largest seedling is a little over a foot tall from ground to leaf tip. They all still have only one leaf, but I can see the tallest is starting to grow another from the center.

    One thing I want to bring up: In palms, there is the initial spear that pokes above the soil, and the first leaf comes through that, with the initial spear becoming a sheath around the bottom of the seedling. On all of my seedlings, this sheath has dried out and turned brown. This does not seem to affect the seedlings at all, and nothing else seems to be wrong with them. So, is this a bad thing? I am curious to hear answers! Thanks!

    Also, I apologize for the lack of pictures thus far, and I hope to have some in the future!

    ~palmsandsnow

  • 10 years ago

    Good luck palmsandnow! Sounds like they're doing pretty well. As far as the sheath turning brown, it sounds normal to me. I swear I have seen that on most palm seedlings.

    mesembs thanked Andy
  • 10 years ago

    Thank you! Yeah, that is what I thought about the sheath; just wanted to make sure. I have also seen it on some of my other palm seedlings, too.

  • 10 years ago

    UPDATE #4:

    We are now down to 2 palms... The last one to die perished shortly after an experimental transplant. I think it was still a bit young for transplanting, so I won't make that mistake again! The other two remaining are still in the same pot, but I would like to transplant them into gritty mix this weekend. I started the first phase of this plan yesterday, and I think I have everything I need to get going.

    The palms themselves have only grown a bit taller, but the second leaves have really grown larger, and the palms are beautifully proportioned. I really know I need to be careful with the transplant.. I really don't want to blow it..

    Hopefully I will update a couple weeks after the transplant.

    ~palmsandsnow

  • 10 years ago

    Sorry to hear you've lost some of your seedlings. Could have been a bit of damage during the transplant/re-pot that let fungus into the roots. Did you check the root system on those that died? I had a couple of small palms I bought that were reportedly ultra sensitive to transplant. I dug the planting holes then cut out the bottom of the pots. Put the pots into the planting holes then slowly and very carefully cut away the sides of the pots. It was a very delicate operation but ended up successful.

    Those seeds I mentioned previously have finally started to germinate, after about 3 months, well 2 so far.

    mesembs thanked tropicbreezent
  • 10 years ago

    I have not yet examined the roots, but I probably should soon. I am pretty sure I accidentally severed the growing tip of the taproot. I have done that before, and it has resulted in death of the seedling. Good news is I will be able to reuse the gritty mix from the dead palm.

  • 10 years ago

    UPDATE #5:

    So.... Where to begin.. I got the transplant done Saturday (the 16th), and as of right now, I don't hold out much hope for these guys. The seedling leaves have started to fold up like an accordion, and I take this to mean they are trying to minimize the area of leaf exposed to the sun. I have them in soft morning light (inside) right now, and I guess I will just have to wait and see what happens.

    ~palmsandsnow

  • 10 years ago

    Did you buy the seeds from a seller or are they from dates? In which case they are C.dactylifera

    mesembs thanked GreenLarry
  • 10 years ago

    I did, in fact, buy them over the internet, but I forget the name of the seller.... They are P. canariensis.

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