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help with new soil for new hoyas

10 years ago

So, several of the folks here have mentioned that when they get a new hoya, one of the first things that they do is to replace the seller's soil mix with a soil mix that the buyer feels works better in the new home.

I understand that very well, having lost several lovely little plants because they were in a soil mix that stayed wet far too long in my fairly humid indoor conditions. On the other hand, I am nervous about doing it to very small plants, because I'm worried about damaging that tiny root system. Same thing for potting up rooted cuttings, for that matter.

So, please tell me how you do it. Do you actually remove every bit of the original soil? Or do you just remove the outer layer (the loose stuff that's not filled with roots) and add a new outer layer of your own soil mix? If you do remove all of the soil, do you do it with some small tool? Or your fingers, only? Or by swishing the plant gently in water?

I've found that when I try to remove all of the original soil, the roots tend to stick together and it's difficult to get the new soil between the roots. And when I do get it in there, it usually falls out as I try to position the plant in the pot. (And I almost always clean out the original pot and reuse it. I do avoid putting anything into a larger pot, unless it is obviously necessary.)

With other plants, I usually just make a mound of new soil, and spread the roots over the mound. Then fill over and around that. But somehow the way hoya roots grow seems to make that difficult.

Can anyone give me some personal experience about the "how" of doing this?

Many thanks!






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  • 10 years ago

    I repotted some plants to a new mix yesterday. They are all small plants. I removed all the soil from the roots because my new mix is a soil-less mix and I didn't want to have any leftover soil. I put the roots in a bowl of RO water (my tap water is very hard) and removed the soil with my fingers. Mind you, I'm a Hoya newbie, but from what I read on this forum, people who use soil-less mix tend to remove all the old soil from the roots. Some people who use a mix with soil leave some soil on the roots to avoid disturbing the root system, unless the soil is very old or has a lot of peat. Some roots broke off my plants, but I think it'll be OK.

    I used a chopstick to spread the fine roots while I added the new mix little by little. But I don't think I spread the roots perfectly evenly. My new mix is pretty chunky (and it was wet), and the pots were small, and the roots were very fine. All of those made it difficult to spread the roots. I just did the best I could :)

    I put the plants on a heat mat to hopefully alleviate the stress and trauma of repotting. I spray the plants a few times a day. I will be monitoring the soil moisture level with a bamboo skewer, and watch for signs of dehydration. If they look dehydrated, I'll put them in a humidity dome.

    I'm sure more experienced people will chime in, and hopefully correct if I did something wrong.

    Good luck with your new plants!

    zigbud thanked themockturtle
  • 10 years ago

    It's not really necessary to remove all the old soil, even if you're using a soil-less mix. What stays on will incorporate in fine, and eventually it was wash out of the mix. I think it's better to leave the roots as undisturbed as possible with Hoyas. So I just shake off what's lose and plop it into the new pot. Be careful not to move the pot size up unless you have a solid rootball. They like to be a little crowded root-wise. Then keep a close eye on the newly potted baby plant or rooted cutting, not allowing it to get too dry. Once it starts to put out new growth, you can then water normally, as you would a full-grown plant.


    Denise in Omaha

    zigbud thanked Denise
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I leave roots undisturbed unless a heavy soil was used by seller. In that case, I remove as much soil as possible by hand and then soak the plant dor 15 minutes in tepid water. After 15 minutes, I remove the plant and gently rinse it all in tepid water to remove any loosened dirt from leaves, roots and stems. After that rinse, I repot in my mix.

    If it is a small plant, I place it between my first and second fingers (like scissors), hang it between my fingers upside down, cupping its roots in my palm. I add 1/2 inch of mix to the pot, and turn my hand holding the plant over, placing it in the pot. I keep my hand on the plant as I am adding more mix, pushing the plant gently from side to side while adding the media. Once the plant is mostly "settled" in the new pot, I tap the bottom of the pot firmly, but not too hard, against the table and then shake it a little bit. I then add more mix if needed. It is important, if you use my method, to make sure each ingredient in your mix is roughly the same size (eg. 1/4 inch perlite should be mixed with 1/4 inch orchid bark). This way, smaller particles won't settle at the bottom and impede drainage.

    I really don't worry about spreading the roots. All you really need to do is loosen them from the old mix.

    If the mix was waterlogged or a very heavy soil was used, best bet would be just to take cuttings, as I have found roots grown in thick, poorly draining soil, are feathery, fine, and very susceptible to shredding, breakage, and rot. That is just my experience.

    For large plants, I just soak the plant, pot and all for 15-20 minutes in tepid water. It helps the plant come out of the pot. Then I repot into a different pot. I don't even loosen the mix (only because my larger hoyas have been in my mix only, so I know what the rootball is "hiding") UNLESS the roots appear sickly. Then I make cuttings.

    zigbud thanked aurorawa
  • 10 years ago

    Thank you all so much! You've clarified a lot of things for me (and probably for others, too). I worry a lot about doing more harm than good --- now I feel more confident about how to go about it.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for asking this zigbud! It has helped me too

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