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Down payment from more than 1 source

10 years ago

I
am in an odd situation which I could not find much info online about. My fiancé
and I finally found the perfect house after many months of looking. It is
actually bigger than we need. She actually threw out the idea of having my parents
(who are in their early 70s) to live with us as the house is laid out nicely to
permit it. Putting the whole “what ifs” regarding personalities clashing at
times, the idea would be beneficial to all of us. They would no longer have to
live in their home which has a lot of steps, needs to be renovated, etc. My
girlfriend would sell her current house as well and there would be 4 names on
the deed and mortgage (me, my fiancé and parents). My question is does it
matter how the down payment is achieved? We are looking to put down well over
the 20% down just to keep the monthly expenses in check. The down payment would
consist of the sale of my parent’s house, my girlfriend’s house and my savings.
Since all the names would be on the mortgage I figured for tax purposes that
would work as opposed to just my fiancé and I on the mortgage and my parent’s
provide us the money from the sale of our house (which would clearly exceed the
$14,000 allowed limit for a gift). Hopefully this all makes sense, I am just
trying to think of all angles which could present a problem in the future. My fiancé
and I would be paying all the mortgage and tax payments, so it would be claimed
solely by me during tax time to make things easier.

Thanks

Comments (11)

  • 10 years ago

    Ask your realtor for a referral to a mortgage broker or banker. Should have already done so for pre-approval, anyway. That way you can get your loan/down payment questions answered. The tax questions are best left to a CPA.

  • 10 years ago

    Got it, thanks

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    This isn't related to the money aspect, but equally if not more important. In considering the ramifications of living under one roof, are you prepared to be full-time caretakers in 20-30 years? If they need someone with them 24/7 and have significant medical needs or some serious impairments to deal with, how would you manage it? What if it became impossible to keep one of them with you in your home? Would funds be available to assure quality care in such a circumstance?

    Multigenerational families living under one roof can be a wonderful experience for all, but certain challenges also arise. Just be sure to spend as much thought and planning on how various scenarios can and will be handled as you do planning and building your home and figuring out the financing for it.

  • 10 years ago

    Great points, thank you for the comments and definitely things we need to discuss. A big part of the reasoning on having them live with us is to get them out of their house. Our town does not have a 55 or older community which stinks. 2 bedroom condos go for close to what some SF homes are going for, it is unreal. At their age they should be enjoying life and being with their grandkids, not maintaining a house. If my dad was one that enjoyed doing that as I do, that would be different. But he hates it.

  • 10 years ago

    Just another reason why I love this site, you guys provide so much information. Thank you so much for your comments/suggestions. We are going to discuss all of this an then some this coming weekend between the 4 of us now, but there is no doubt that if we decide to move forward a good plan is in order.

  • 10 years ago

    It looks as though the expected life span of the two couples is quite different.

    What would need to be done when there needs to be a major change in lifestyle, due to, probably, one or both of the seniors needing care, or dying?

    Would it be better to have the younger one(s) be the owners, with the seniors having loaned the money, or made another plan, as there could be revaluations of the property when one/both of the seniors move to assisted living, or pass away, including tax consequences?

    Would the ongoing owners be able/willing to provide the value to the person departing to receive needed care?

    The issue of whether there may be more family members has a substantial bearing on the situation, as well.

    You need to do some serious and complex thinking about what you'd need to do, and be able to, in case of various eventualities

    ole joyful

  • 10 years ago

    Reading IRS guidance on tax exempt gift limits, your parents could (notice I'm not necessarily advising SHOULD) gift you and your fiance more than $14,000. They could each gift you $14,000 and each gift your fiance $14,000, for a total of $56,000.

    Issues of joint ownership with a non-spouse, already mentioned, as well as this potential gift, need to be carefully considered.

  • 10 years ago

    Just to clarify, the $14,000 is a gift exclusion for tax purposes, it is not a tax exempt gift limit. Gifts of $14,000 or below do not trigger form 709. Gifts amounts greater than $14,000 trigger form 709 and are taxable, but those taxes may be exempted by using the $5.43 million lifetime estate and gift tax exemption. Essentially, this means that you can give any number of people $14,000 per year and another $5.43 million over your lifetime (and death) without triggering a tax penalty.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks guys. We have all discussed this and while there are some real benefits of doing it, we have all decided to not move forward with purchasing the house. Thanks again all.

  • 10 years ago

    For whatever the reasons, the right outcome.


    Hopefully what pushed this decision was the realization of the inherent problems of the suggested arrangement and not the specifics of the the unique property.

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