The problem I saw with the Keurig 2.0 was that current style K-Pods will not fit it. My family likes one coffee and it does not make K-Pods for the 2.0, so it was not purchased for this household. I haven't done any research because of that failure.

So, now there are different size K-Cups?

That was my understanding. Of course, I could have understood incorrectly. Will have to research it. I am curious now.

I think you can only use Keurig pods and no other brand. We dont drink a lot of coffee, I have one in the morning. DH likes to use it to make tea, using the hot water and a tea bag in his cup.

ETA, I am thinking of ordering the white color, do you think that will be hard to keep clean?

I am so irritated with Keurig that I don't know if I can ever bring myself to purchase another one. The last one that I purchased for this home started to act wonky after having it for three months. It still acts up and each time I think it has finally brewed it's last cup it revives itself. The one I had before this gave me quite a scare. I was in the hall bath getting ready for work and I heard a strange noise from the kitchen. My Keurig was sending a steady stream of water right out of it. I unplugged it and called Keurig the next day. They were great about sending another one but that one only lasted a year or two.

A few months ago when I truly thought it had given up the ghost and was researching a new one DD told me that they had many returns of them to the Costco that she works at because the customer's old K cups won't work in the new Keurig. WTBS, not all of the models are like that but you really have to research to make sure you get a model that accepts all K-Cups and not just the Keurig brand.

I was just looking on Amazon and I have to say Keurig is an example of corporate greed gone amuck. What if you already have a favorite K-Cup brand? Keurig I am sure is making a tidy profit on their machines, as they should. But IMO they are in the coffee machine business not the coffee business and their attempt to restrict customer choice is ridiculous. It seems like the choice that is left is to buy a Keurig and be told what you MUST use coffee wise or choose a different machine.

There are a few problems with the new Keurig's. First one is that they have a "reader" that will only allow Keurig brand kcups. My sister buys a lot of off brands and is mad that she can't use them with her new Keurig. The cup height is also very short now, a basic travel mug barely fits with the base piece removed. Taller cups need to be wedged at an angle or two smaller cups used. A short Tervis won't fit under it standing up without removing the bottom piece.

Positive note-the water container is in the back so its less bulky sitting on a counter.

Anyone tried any of the knock off brands like Mr Coffee?

Holly Kay, my keurig has been acting up for a while now, although I have had it for about 5 years which is good. The smaller cup button acted up about 6 months in, but we didnt use that button much. I am now rethinking buying a Keurig. Reading the reviews on line, seems this newer model is not very good. So now I am researching other brands, jeez I thought this was going to be easy...:(

I have the Cuisenart Keurig after my regular Keurig died after 6 years of regular use. It takes all the old kcups, so I love it. I've had it maybe 6 months.

rnmom, that is one of the features I dont like about the 2.0 model that the water reservoir is in the back, makes it look so bulky if you view it from the side, which we would be doing sitting in the family room looking into the kitchen.

akl, I am going to look that brand up thanks

If you're investigating other brands, a few of my family members prefer the Nespresso coffee machines and coffee.

My brother had a Keurig and bought another when it died, but I a hearing more and more issues with reliability. I have heard a lot of good things about Nepresso. ETA: Just saw that Nepresso are on sale at Williams Sonoma now.

On the other hand, our coffee maker is a Rough Linen kind of equivalent (some folks may want to stop reading now -- sorry) -- a Jura espresso machine that grinds and brews espresso, latte, capauccino or coffee one cup at a time with better than a half pound of beans and a couple of liters of water in reserve. Years of dependability, and if you have a problem, they can be repaired or turned in towards a new machine. We even bought one refurbished for 2/3 the price of new. We use the grounds in our flower beds and have no pods to deal with. We felt a little silly and indulgent at first, but I don't see us having anything else now.

The brand new Keurigs DO ACCEPT OTHER BRANDS OF K CUPS. Our old reliable (5 years' service) finally started leaking. We just got a new one last night and it takes all DH's San Francisco brand coffees, which are not in k cups at all, but more like little coffee filter packets.

That newest model of Keurig 2.0, which he bought at our local Walmart in a small town, also came with a couple of very large Kcups and a carafe, so one can brew a whole pot of coffee for a group if needed.

To summarize, new sizes of k cups---yes, a large one for a pot of coffee, and the new machine accepts every brand of Kcup.

That's good to hear kswl. thanks

The K cups have to have the the Keurig emblem on the top. The cheaper brands bought at Big Lots. Ollies, etc do not work, they do not have the emblem.

Green Mountain, Starbucks, the brands sold at Target, Meijers, WalMart all work.

lascatx which model jura do you have? Is it easy to clean? thanks.

From looking into the K-cup issue, what I found is that Keurig will take only other brands that have been licensed by Keurig. The reader reads the top of the K-cup and if it has been branded by Keurig will brew the cup of coffee. It seems that if the K-cup has not been licensed by Keurig a message will come up that says because that K-cup has not been licensed by Keurig, the cup of coffee will not be brewed. That really sucks.

I think I am going to order the Keurig 2.0 after all. My friend also has one and doesnt have any issues with it. Now is it red or black I want? What shade of red are you seeing in this photo. Maybe my screen is off, but it looks more pink to me.

RoseAbbey, it looks tomato red to me -- not a deeper cherry red, but red and not pink.

Arcy, I think you've summed up the pros and cons -- selection and a fresh brew, but mediocrtity and an evironmental nightmare if you don't use you own choice of coffee and a reusable cup -- which reduces the convenience somewhat.

Hoovb, I am a bit embarrassed to admit that we own three. We originally bought the S7 as a refurbished model, I think 12 to 13 years ago, and used it for several years at home. When we redid our kitchen coming up on 9 years ago, I rationalized buying the "stainless finish" S9 (same machine, different color) -- also refurbished, to go with out new stainless appliances and DH took the black S7 into the office -- where it still makes his espresso. Those models have been replaced and the new ones have in turn been replaced with newer models. I don't know, but I think there is a S7 or S9 One Touch series that may be the latest one in that line.

About a year and a half ago, I started looking at machines again. I don't know why, but new and sparkly got to me and we bought a Z9 when Sur la Table was having their once a year sale. We were able to get an employee discount on top of that and it was a great deal. The silver S9 went to my son's apartment and is helping him through grad school (rough times, right? ;) ). We told our younger son he would get the S7 when DH retires.

Each of the Juras have a counter that tells you how many cups have been made. Before we bought the Z9, we added up what the two older ones had made and figured that a Starbucks habit would have run us well into 6 figures over the years while two machines had cost us less than $3k. Even adding in coffee, milk and maintenance, we saved 6 figures. Having already "saved" over $100K helped rationalize buying the new one. And it is eaier for guests to serve themselves.

Oh -- easy to clean? Yes. First, they have the option of using a filter in the water tank and that virtually eliminates the need for descaling the machine (as well as filtering water for taste - depending on your water). Then once every month or two, depending on use, the machine tells you when it is time to clean. cleaning cycle -- empty the drip tray, add a cleaning tablet, put a container under the spout and push start. It beeps when it is done and you dump the container and the drip tray. Daily maintenance is basically rinsing (which it does automatically) and wiping down. We probably dump the grinds every other day, but you could do that daily.

The Z9 (and presumably any that auto dispense the milk) also has a rinse and a cleaning cycle for the milk system Those are also very simple. The rinse cycle is simply pushing a button to run some water from the tank through after brewing drinks that use milk and a red light and message remind you to rinse -- or you can set it to rinse automatically. It does not remind you to clean the milk system, but at the end of the day, if milk drinks have been made, you should clean the milk system to avoid any dried milk deposits from clogging the system later. Again, it is a cycle the machine will prompt you through --basically running water (with or without cleaning solution) from a container (rather than the tank -- to get the lines used to dispense the milk) to a cup under the spout and then rinses with clean water. I use plain water after I make my morning cup but use the cleaning solution periodically or if I have been brewing longer periods -- helps dissolve any dried milk in the system. Takes a lot more effort to type this than to clean it.

Correct on the "convenience". I tried several different fill your own baskets with my fresh ground coffee and what a MESS!! It really is not practical..makes the simplest task 100x more difficult. No, fill your own is not even close to an acceptable solution to the waste issue. To get the cup one seeks costs upwards of $1.50 per cup with a Kureg. Sure that beats the coffee shops..but still WAAAYYY out of the range of an acceptable price in my world. Mine will not be replaced. I have my Mr.Coffee in the cupboard waiting to RETURN.

Thanks lascatx. I have been trying to find a local store that carries the red color, but no one does, they only stock the black. I was hoping it was a cherry red.

I like cherry red too. I can't remember id I have seen one in red. If I see one in a store the next couple of days, I will let you know.

RoseAbbey, if you are still looking, I got to see the red one at Macy's today (I had a meeting practically across the street). I would call it a cherry red -- a little darker than a Cambell's soup can label and both darker and more saturated than the nearest red item I could find for comparison --a Fiestaware mug. I tried to take a photo, but the Keurig looked exactly like the photo we were talking about yesterday and the mug looked more like a hot pink. It wasn't helpful at all.

We just switched from our Keurig to the Nespresso Virtuoline. It makes espresso and American coffee.

I don't know if you've thought about the Nespresso, but I thought I'd add a big thumbs up for the machine.

lascatx,thanks so much for looking. I actually decided not to get the Keurig 2.0. I didnt really care for the style of it, it is supposedly smaller than the older model, but what I saw in the store today, it was black of course, but it is huge and ugly. What I did buy was a stainless steel Kitchenaid kettle instead. For the one cup of coffee I drink in a day I figured I would drink instant coffee and DH can enjoy his teas with the hot water from the kettle. He always complained anyway that the water wasnt hot enough from the Keurig for his tea.

And if instant doesn't work out, a drip cone is easy enough. That is what we had when DH nad I got married and we still keep one on hand for doing a pump pot of regular coffee or decaf when we have a crowd.

I had to look up drip cone, I have never heard of it. Up until about 5 years ago before we bought the Keurig, we always drank instant coffee and actually quite enjoyed it. I still have one of those 10 cup coffee makers if we ever have a crowd over, which is not very often.