allrighty.. here ya go: (note the fridge has to move a little more upwards)

Ooops.. kitchen is 17'10" (sink side) by 14'4" to what looks like the center of the door.

I uploaded a new picture with the dimensions.

Incorporate as many lower drawers and pull outs as you can, and as few lower cabinets as possible.

Think about some glass fronts for the uppers, under-cabinet lighting, and perhaps even in-cabinet lighting.

Yes, a 5-foot window is much bigger than the rendering! Wow!

Duh, forgot to add.

We have under cabinet lighting going in AND the cabinets on each side of the sink (uppers only) will have glass fronts.. lol

R

Do you plan to have a pullout trash/recycling cabinet? I'd rather have that on one side of the sink than a second DW.

If you keep both DW's maybe panel them, otherwise it might look odd.

I echo Michael's suggestion to panel the DWs. I wish we had-still could, but that's gone down the list.

We have our DW left of the sink, and a double pull out trash to the right. I love our pull out trash.

Oh, yea.. two dishwashers are a must for us.. lol. We leave the house at like 6-6:20 every morning and many times get home at 6-8pm.. doing dishes is a "I got a window.. let's get ALL of them done" thing.. heh

I'll see what it will take to panel them, but they are all SS like the fridge/freezer/stove etc.. so should blend fine.

I was thinking of a pull-out trash cabinet/drawer too, not sure where it might go, but it sure would be nice.

R

Planning on a micro?

Yes, sorry.. the picture is, again, rudimentary... to say the least, sorry. The double oven built in is really an oven/microwave combo.

R

3 things - consider a prep sink in island or on that long wall between the sink and fridge (if you are against the island prep sink) so that the main sink is clean up only. This way you can easily take things out of the fridge and prep before bringing over to the cooktop / oven and not be in the way of someone doing something else at the sink.

Also - consider changing out that pantry to either a reach in or something that is built in cabinetry (lots of funky pantry solutions - we have a pull out that i like, or one that has a carousel of shelves, etc. the corner pantry is not easy to see and store things and stuff gets "lost" in the back corner. Have one now - hate it.

Consider moving your island OUT - that 3' 5" will be tight - esp with the DW being loaded / unloaded and my guess is that area is the most trafficked - not the sides where you have more room.

I appreciate it, but the kitchen design is set. All I am looking at is what types of cabinets and drawers as well as "backing pull out here, wine rack there, cabinets here" etc.

Sorry, but been at this for a year so pretty much have the design down pat.

I do appreciate the input though. We just looked at nickles and dimes doing all this and a prep sink simply was not at the top of my list. My last house/kitchen was about the same size and I really never even needed/desired a prep sink. I am sure it works for others, but 2 or 3 ft further is not a huge deal for me as I tend to bring everything I want out to the island and do all my work there with my back to the sink and I have no issue turning to it if I need to.

Russ

If you do all your prep on the island, how about putting the trash pull out there?

Drawers as others have mentioned. I agree with flaminfish that trash can be on the island. For wine shelves, I'd consider somewhere on the fridge side of the U.

You know that wine should be stored in a dark and cool place, so is that just for the weekly supply?

lol! Well, I was hoping 5-10 bottles max. We normally do not keep more than 5, but would be nice to have a place to put them.

Trash pull on the island, that sounds good. We'll incorporate that. Best to be on the fridge side, agreed.

R

If you are prepping at the island, then I agree with trash there as well. Do as many drawers as possible and for the 5-10 wine bottles I'd put in them in the pantry and/or fridge.

My friend has a similar layout and has the trash in the island as others have suggested. Works well as, like you, she preps on the island. (I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who preps on my sinkless island! ;-)

For wine:

Or:

Awww, no pics. Here they are:

For wine - perhaps a decorative display on the cabinet sides going towards the porch, or on the diagonal wall of the pantry. http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Upton-Home-Valorian-Metal-Wall-Mount-Wine-Rack-Sculpture/7424287/product.html?refccid=AG4UIW7PJ3ZYY4KNHOA6RKRFOQ&searchidx=25

http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Upton-Home-Sunderland-Wall-Mount-Wine-Rack/9315470/product.html?refccid=IXFK7BSTMONYEECJZOD3HTQMUM&searchidx=45

re prep sink and turning. For us, the big deal is the clean up. We prep right over the sink. No carrying things around. We hardly ever have to wipe counters or carry dirty cutting boards around now. Items are prepped right over the sink, the prep board is tilted down and rinsed. Then repeat or leave to dry. A thing of beauty if ever there was.

Also, one can be cleaning up while the other prepares other items. We have never had 2 sinks before now and I doubt we will ever go back to 1.

I hear ya.. is why I do not want to get used to one, then I will want one ;)

R