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Beginner Gardener - Successive crops?

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

Reading the back of a pack of Snap Pea seeds it says to Sow seeds in successive crops every 2 weeks from early April to mid-May as long as weather is cool. I am planting in containers so some seed packets say to start in small starters and then transfer to larger pots others don't specify. I joined a gardening group last year but haven't gotten into one this year yet but we started a bit late last year for stuff like Strawberries so I want to get a head start on my own garden at home. I assume it means by 'successive crops' that the seeds will grow at different rates and then become ripe at different times instead of one large crop. For just a couple of people how many seeds should I plant at a time? The seeds are about the size of a regular dried pea. Will each one grow into a plant? I would assume (using common sense) that some may not grow into healthy plants?

I'm starting a spreadsheet detailing the seeds I have (went a little overboard I think) and tracking the details on the packages about days to harvest and stuff like that so I know when to start planting seeds. I will plant in containers and start inside (so dogs and frost don't destroy my plants) so does that make a difference for the instructions given on the seed packets?

If you start from seed should you always start in those small seeder trays and move to larger containers when they get large enough? Also some instructions talk about the last frost of Spring but I'm not sure exactly when that is. I've Googled it and I believe May 9-10th is the last frost of Spring this year for Southern Ontario but usually there is a note that the calculations are based off old almanacs up to 2010 so nothing has been officially calculated after so that means that it may not be May 9th? Would it fluctuate enough to mess me up if I go by May 9th as the last frost of Spring?

Some sites I've looked athave a calendar suggesting what to plant in which month does that apply when you use peat pots? For example I clicked March and it suggests to start growing melons, peas, peppers and lettuce (all seeds I have). I assume they are suggesting March as the time to plant seeds to give the plants enough time to mature and produce vegetables given the outside weather. Does any of that affect starting seeds in peat pots indoors? Like if I start inside then it doesn't matter if there is a frost while they are starting to grow inside.

I'm probably over-thinking this. Should I just follow the instructions on the package regardless if I start in a peat pot or plant in containers? If it doesn't say to start in peat pots can I still start in peat pots or should I plant in a larger container that I will move outside when the weather is better?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!

Comments (5)

  • 10 years ago

    Can you repost using paragraphs?

  • 10 years ago

    I thought I did, lol. I'll see if I can edit it.

  • 10 years ago

    Well, a lot of questions and some seem just general and others regard to peas. I'll start with the peas first.

    Direct sow them now through about mid-April. Any later and the warmth of summer will shut them down and the production will be less. In my opinion, it'd be a waste of seed. Peas need cooler weather to do well. How may peas to plant? As many as you can. Each single plant doesn't produce much. You can crowd them together more so than other crops. Each seed planted will sprout if they are viable. A few may not. And depending on what variety they are, they could grow anywhere from 2 feet tall to 6+ feet. Have the proper support in place before you plant.

    Do all plants need started in pots first. No. Only a few like tomatoes, eggplants, peppers and things like this NEED started ahead of time. Other things you can start if you want. While still others do best direct seeded (cucurbits and root crops).

    Last frost dates are an average. The actual last frost for any given year could come earlier or later than the average. Cool weather crops are usually planted prior to the last frost date and are tolerant of light frosts. Warm weather crops are planted after.

    Hope that helps some.

    Rodney

    P.S. Be sure to do a search here on peat pots. They can restrict roots if planted in the soil intact. At least rip the bottom off when you transplant.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    It isn't clear from your post - will you be growing these in containers until harvest or are you talking about just starting seeds indoors, growing transplants, that will then be planted in the ground after frost?

    Rodney did a good job of sorting out some of your issues but I get the feeling you might not understand the difference between what is called "direct seeding" (put the seed where it will grow until harvest) and growing transplants. Nor the times when some things are planted relatively to the last frost date - some go in the ground before and some long after.

    " melons, peas, peppers and lettuce (all seeds I have)"

    Melons, peas and lettuce are all direct seeded in the ground where they will grow at the proper planting time for those crops but they all have different planting times. Peas go in before the last frost date, lettuce just after it, and melons a couple of weeks after it.

    Peppers are very slow growing and are normally started in small cell packs indoors, under lights, and allowed to grow for 8-10 weeks before moving them outside to the garden and then only after the soil has warmed well which is usually about 6 weeks after your last frost.

    Ontario has 8 different gardening zones, 4 in the southern half. So go to this map and locate your exact city to determine which zone you are in. We can then give you approx. planting dates for your crops.

    http://www.plantmaps.com/interactive-ontario-plant-zone-hardiness-map.php

    Hope this helps.

    Dave

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you very much both of you for the replies!! I have a bunch of seeds and some I will start inside in peat pots or seed trays (I grabbed some of those today). I will grow everything outside in containers. The ground here is a ton of clay and a mess to dig up. I got a few herbs, corn, cucumbers, strawberry (seeds), watermelon, carrots, lettuce, tomatoes, peppers, beans, peas and onions. I will grow all outside (eventually) after starting some inside. I read the packets and made a spreadsheet of days to maturity and the start dates with approximate harvest dates. I need everything laid out so I don't miss anything.

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