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Preventing drainage

Living on a Sandhill, I experience what is referred to as Extreme Drainage. Water never puddles and doesn't run downhill on in non-paved areas. Rainfall more or less seeps straight down instead wicking outward. I know that laying a thick layer of mulch helps to retain some moisture, but it really doesn't stop the drainage of the soil below the mulch. Eventually the mulch breaks down and adds some moisture holding capacity to the soil, but the soil still remains in an Extreme Drainage state. It just takes a tad bit longer to reach that drainage. These areas still don't puddle at all, something that is being proven today as I watch the heavy rains.

Since I am on rented land, I am not going to try to change the drainage here. I am also very aware how changing soil structure too much or on too big a scale can have a negative impact on some wildlife that require those open, quick draining areas. But I am still curious if there is a way to turn a low spot in the yard into a puddling area as I likely may want to do this when we move to our own land. There is the method of laying down pond liner and poking holes in it to provide some drainage while trapping water, but I wouldn't want to do this as down the road either I or someone else will have to dig this up. I would much rather find out a method that involves maybe excavating the site and adding something natural that won't adversely affect things over the years. Any suggestions/insights?

Comments (5)

  • 10 years ago

    I once built a bog garden by putting down layers and layers of cardboard into a hole where a large white BOP had been dug out, then filling it completely with Black Cow and organic peat (not peat moss, peat -- look at the garden center for it). You can also use leaves if you can't afford or find organic peat. The cardboard allowed drainage while keeping the mucky stuff in place. I planted bog buttons, water canna and lizard tail in it, and it lived happily there for many years. It was under an oak tree, so leaves fell on it every year too. All you have to do is have more organic matter than sand. That's basically what a bog is.

    Michael AKA Leekle2ManE thanked User
  • 10 years ago

    I knew a guy who bought a truckload of hard pan for his garden. If you could find clay based hard pan, maybe you could excavate an area and fill it with hard pan. Oak leaves should also work, but it would take years to build up enough organic matter. My garden is about 25% to 30% organic matter - mostly due to oak leaves added yearly for many years.

  • 10 years ago

    I like DG's method, it provides a way of building up a boggy, puddly area that will either continue to slowly build or eventually revert back to normal conditions. It would also allow the moisture to continue to filter through, but at a much slower rate, allowing the boggy plants to filter out nutrients. Hardpan clay would be a way to go if I intended to have a 'natural' pond in which to have turtles and the like, but I really don't see myself going that route ever. A 'small' koi pond with a couple of turtles is about as far as I will go. I say 'small' because koi need a fair bit of space to grow in healthy conditions. I am far from certain, but I don't think clay is really a local resource, rather I would imagine it is trucked down from GA and SC. I am sure there are some areas in FL that have clay, but I can't imagine it is enough to make gathering and transporting it an efficient process.

    We're not exactly sure where we will be moving, but we feel that down near Tavares, Eustis and Mt. Dora will suit us. Depending on just where we end up, we could have conditions very much like what we have now or have a naturally more moist situation.

  • 10 years ago

    You can switch soils with me anytime, clay sucks. I used to curse the sandy soil I had in Tampa, now I would give my eyeteeth for it back. We wound up in the middle of a hard-pan clay area, to the East are sand-hills, to the West are sand-hills, and here we sit. At first I thought, wow, no more watching water and nutrients sink down immediately out of sight. Now I know - clay needs amendments because it robs the plants of nutrients, it doesn't drain when it rains a lot and when there isn't enough rain just try to dig a hole for a decent sized plant, go ahead, try.

  • 10 years ago

    My sister spent 30 years in the Upcountry of SC trying to add organic matter to her red clay yard to make things grow. Every Christmas and Birthday, her husband would give her bags and bags of compost. They did, after about 15 years, manage to have a pretty nice vegetable garden.

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