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Privacy near powerlines

10 years ago

I've spent a couple weeks searching the forums, and have found some good ideas, but I figured it was time to write my own post. Our local utilities came through and removed a large number of trees, white pine and maple along the south side of our property. We bought this house for the woodland feel it had, and desperately want to get that back.

I borrowed some questions from another post, hopefully you guys can offer some ideas based on my scenario (z5, SE Michigan, sandy soil, 4-6 hours sun daily). We are open to some very slow growing evergreen (due to powerlines), shrubs, trees, etc:

1.) How large a property lot do you have? 1 acre

2.) How near your house would the trees be? >50ft

3.) How near the property line? depends on the plant choice, I don't want to plant large growth trees under powerlines only to do this again in 15 years.

4.) Will there be powerlines overhead? yes, local service lines on wood poles ~15ft up

5.) Do you have a septic tank & leach field, and if so how far will it be from the trees? Yes, I do not know where the leech field ends, but the tanks are about 40ft from the property line/power lines.

6.) Are you determined to plant other things under it (can impact choice of a maple, for instance)? No, we have some room north of property line, but will be encroaching on leech field.

7.) How tall do you want this to be? If your neighbor has a 2 story house with a window view overlooking your yard, that's different from 2 ranch-style single-story houses on level ground. No houses in direct view, just want some privacy from neighbors back yard.

8.) Is this just sort of a visual barrier, or do you need a dense 'I can't see them at all' hedge? Mixed, natural look is preferred. Evergreens, shrubs, flowering, some winter interest (red twig dogwood?). We don't need to make the neighbors invisible to us, just some privacy in the 80ft of wide open property line.

9.) Do you need evergreens so it remains 'solid' in winter? A mix is preferred.

10.) Do you plan to do a lot of pruning, shaping, hedging or what-have-you, or are you a 'plant it & forget it once established' person? We have full time jobs, two young kids, yet do enjoy gardening. lower maintenance is preferred, but we are not hands off either.

11.) Is this a fenced in area, or well into the city, or do deer have access to the area? We are on the edge of the country and the burbs, mostly 1+acres lots, and lots of shameless deer. Arborvitae are decimated here, and they even ate three Holly bushes we planted two years ago, to the ground.

Comments (9)

  • 10 years ago

    chsigx, what is the average soil moisture like? Wet? Dry? In between? That factoid will help to make some good choices. I'm a huge fan of plain-Jane red twig dogwood, but they do do best in moist areas, along streams and lakes, etc. There's many more for us to talk about.

  • 10 years ago
    The area is definitely not wet as in by a lake or river, but not desert dry either. We average 30" rain each year and 32" snow. This area is above the grade of surrounding areas on my lot, so won't get a ton of runoff focusing there either. So I will call it medium dry :)
  • 10 years ago

    where in MI ...


    why are we fixated on the property line alone???


    any chance at some pix ...


    what sight line are we blocking... patio ... windows ... etc ..


    and you thought you covered all the questions.. lol ... great try though ....


    ken, in the real SE MI ...

  • 10 years ago
    I will post some pictures when I get home this evening, open for all suggestions. Thanks for the quick replies!
  • 10 years ago

    I should add, it is not necessarily the sight line to block, but mainly the woodsy feel of the back yard. It felt like camping up north being in our back yard. The view is the neighbors back yard, dogs, and pool. They have a lot of dogs and when they see us, they bark, when the white pines blocked the view they hardly ever barked.

    Ken, you do have me on the south part for sure. I am in Lake Orion, 40min north of Detroit.

  • 10 years ago
    Here are a few pictures, first one is standing on septic tank lids looking at the south property line, second is looking down the tree line.
  • 10 years ago

    OK yes, so considerable shade and mesic conditions. I'd say shade tolerance will be the bigger factor of the two. Perhaps begin by looking at shrubs with decent tolerance to partial shade.

  • 10 years ago
    Those pictures were taken at 6pm and the area was just getting overtaken by shade from the pines in the west. I will watch this weekend, but I believe it has sun from ~11am to ~6pm. I am hoping I can get by with some sun loving shrubs, because I like both Forsythia and smoke tree as options. Some of the options I have been looking at:
    Forsythia (sun)
    Red twig Dogwood (partial sun)
    Smoke tree (sun)
    Lilac (sun)
    Althea (partial)
    Amelanchier (partial)
    Oriental spruce (sun)
    Compressa Juniper (sun)

    I saw a golden hinoki cypress that I loved, but I think deer will devour it.

    Any big reasons to avoid something on the list above?
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Generally no, although my experience with one or two of those is nil. Consider if you would also such shrub groups as Viburnums (many types and wonderful plants) ninebarks, also great shrubs, and more. But I think generally you should be OK.