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Anchusa Dropmore

10 years ago

I love anchusa Dropmore, but have never managed to have it stay on as a perennial in my garden - I think our winters here in zone 6 NJ are just too wet for it. So what I did this year is I started it from seed. I started the seeds right around Thanksgiving, but only one survived. It is, however, a big beautiful healthy looking thing, and my hope is that because I started it so early, it'll bloom this year. Can anybody give me any tips or advice as to how to keep it happy? I know it'll want full sun; my guess is maybe I should add a little sand to the planting hole, does that sound right? Also, my soil is a little on the acid side, and I find that adding lime makes my delphiniums way happy - do you think anchusa would like a little lime too?

Any advice most appreciated - thanks!

Comments (18)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Um, I have never managed to keep alkanet azurea going for very long either although I have better luck with Loddon Royalist than with Dropmore. I was advised to cut mine back hard after its first bloom cycle - it often blooms again later in the season - then do another hard chop in order to stimulate a nice fat basal rosette for over-wintering, which I dutifully did.. We shall see. I would also not be adding anything extra...and especially anything which has even a whiff of fertilser - they just get really, really tall and rank, fall over and die. Pretend it is a husband - treat 'em mean to keep 'em keen. I grow mine with cow parsley and ox-eye daisies, in a 'wild' part of the allotment (actually, the idle, weedy part but it looks great for a few weeks in June)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I think I agree with Camp's suggestion to avoid too fertile a spot, since mine is in a fertile area and gets floppy enough to need propping up. It seems perfectly happy with acid soil and moisture since it has returned for 3 years in my garden in what is probably the moistest spot I have; though it is reasonably well drained, it is never dry and is in a spot that gets moisture from the roof plus a good slope.

  • 10 years ago

    if its been in the house... the most important thing.. will be hardening off to sun


    ken

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks everybody for all these helpful comments!

  • 10 years ago
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    Here's my second year from seed cluster. You can see the flower spikes coming up all around. I will probably have to stake this guy since he's out more in the open vs the last spot I had them. But it will make a great show.

  • 10 years ago
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    Here is the same clump starting to flower. You can see in the second shot the two different colors of blooms too. They start purple and then transition to a true blue color. It makes for a great show when it's in total bloom. Now hopefully we won't have any hard windy downpours.... it causes this guy to flop. After the first bloom you can dead head it all and get a smaller show later in the year.



  • 10 years ago

    Wow that is gorgeous! I sure hope mine will put on a show even half that nice. I do hope I started it early enough that it'll do it this summer, though, because I just have never yet successfully gotten one through the winter! Thanks so much for sharing your beautiful photos!

  • 10 years ago

    They will only flower in the second year though... so you gotta make it through the winter. How large are yours right now?

  • 10 years ago

    It is an astonishing true vivid blue - worth the effort of staking and fussing. I have viper's bugloss (echium vulgare) growing with mine, in with ox-eye daisies in a 'wild' part of the wood edge...and so far, the rosettes are spreading and looking set fair to put out a good show.

  • 10 years ago

    Nevermore, mine's a big rosette now - about a foot across. The individual leaves are about 7 inches long. Think there's any hope? Of course I'll try to get it through the winter but past experience has not been good, so I'm really, really hoping there's a chance it can bloom this year. If I could buy 2nd year ready-to-bloom plants, I'd be happy to, but everybody I know of just sells first year plants. Campanula, your setting for anchusa sounds heavenly!

  • 10 years ago

    Campanula... the echium looks nice. Assuming that it's always damp in the UK... based on no actual knowledge.... it overwinters for you fine? I will be added that to the list.

    Frances... that's sounds like you are on the right track then. Being in NJ.. you get our weather a day later... so I would think you are set. For the plants that you haven't been able to get through the winter... were they as large as what you have now?


  • 10 years ago

    Mine did survive the winter - I think the sandy soil is crucial as it sinks a whopping taproot down through the loose soil (it struggles on clay) which provides enough energy to get it through winter and raring to go in it's second and subsequent springs. The echiums though, are purportedly biennial - in actual fact, like nicotiana, they will have a third go round but essentially, it makes a self-sustaining colony by reseeding (and more easily pulled out than anchusa which can be a bear). I wouldn't consider any of the borage tribe in a neater or more formal garden but for a loose cottage styling ), they are a far better splash of blue than tricky delphiniums.

    Scratchy ungainly leaves though - best to grow in a tight scheme with companions huddling close by to hide the foliage which, like oriental poppies, can look a bit sordid later in the season. True, it needs cutting back hard but it can leave a large gap...or you could do the garden designers trick of popping a pot of lilies in place until the second flush of foliage.

  • 10 years ago

    I can't exactly remember, but I don't think the ones I lost in the past were as big, so maybe it'll work out - here's hoping! Campanula, my soil is rather clay-like, but I tried to add a lot of sand to where I planted it so hopefully that'll help it make it through the winter.

  • 10 years ago

    The sun catches all the evil fuzz in the morning quite well...

  • 10 years ago
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    Full bloom. A bit over 6 foot

  • 10 years ago

    Gorgeous!!!!!

  • 10 years ago

    Aaaaaaand now it looks like hell... I will save some seed (which i noticed goldfinches coming for), and then it will be hacked out.


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