OT but it may be the case now that there are no echinacea at all in our garden. If you had asked me 5 years ago that this would be the case I would have scoffed at you. But between "Aster's Yellow" and the "Sunflower Moth larvae" and the less hardy newer varieties I won't be surprised if there are very few that arise this spring.

I read coneflowers are supposed to be hardy but it seems some people had trouble with them in their zones. I'm in zone 6, I have Magnus, and Cheyenne summer both survived the winter. I'm going to try Hot Summer but I was hoping to find more information on Rainbow Marcella. Oh I did order PowWow Wild Berry today based on the reviews.