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Newbie question re: epidendrum (?) height

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

Hello to all! I've spent the past 18+ months poring over the Kitchens forum (we're still not through our unintended reno yet!), and a few of my orchids are Pssssst-ing me from the family room! :)

When my dad fell ill several years ago and could no longer care for many of the orchids he so devotedly nurtured in his retirement, I adopted 7-10 plants and brought them home with me to Houston, TX. (Up to that point, they thrived outdoors beneath a SoCal/L.A. backyard patio.)

During the first year, my only goal was to keep them alive....period. Dad was not at a point where he could even communicate what types of orchids I'd be bringing home, so I was on my own -- me, the internet, and a few books. I'm happy to say we have a few survivors!

My specific question today concerns what I believe to be a reed-stemmed epidendrum (apologies in advance if I use the wrong terminology along the way):

It currently stands ~ 24" tall. Potting medium is orchid bark with a small % of sphagnum moss and a bit of perlite mixed in. It's kept indoors (A/C), but always next to a very bright, north facing window. (I tried placing a few plants outdoors during late spring early summer -- very warm and humid, but in the shade. However, two types of plants developed some kind of rot within just a few days and started to die. I've kept all my orchids indoors ever since.)

My concern is that it's getting very tall and lanky. Already, as I was re-staking one of the taller stems weeks ago, the top piece (flowering!) snapped off. I was mortified. As it had three aerial roots attached, I quickly replanted into another pot, and it's doing fine (phew!).

Here's the main/original plant:

It's sending out a lot of aerial roots at the 17" mark.

From one orchid site/blog: Extra buds are produced at the top of the flower spike for quite a long time, so flower spikes can get quite tall. However, these orchids will also re-bloom from the nodes on their flower spikes, so I usually cut the top off them and allow them to re-sprout from further down so they don't get too tall.

Is it detrimental to the plant at all (bloom production-wise) to cut the tops off the flower spikes to control overall plant height? If this is okay to do, shall I wait until the blooms are spent, and just snip them down to the first leaf? Or do I cut while the plant is blooming?

To propagate, I'm thinking a cut just beneath the 17" roots would be a good spot, so I can start another plant.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Comments (14)

  • 10 years ago

    Perfect - thanks!

  • 10 years ago

    It looks like the point with the roots at 17" is a kieki. So you essentially have a plant growing on top of another plant. If it is a kieki you should be able to remove it and pot it separately.

    javiwa thanked meg_w (9b) Bradenton
  • 10 years ago

    Let the plant complete the blooming which may last a long time. When the flower is done, by hand break the reed about 5 or 6 inches from the top. After several weeks a kieki will form. Wait until there are at least 3 roots 1" long. Then. by hand, break the reed again about 3 leafs down. Strip off those 3 leafs. Use the stripped off reed and push it into the existing pot or start a new small pot with the kieki roots touching the potting material.

    When regrowing kiekis or divisions, the plants like to be secure and not wobble around. My above method will make that happen. Good luck.

    javiwa thanked shavedmonkey (Harvey in South Fl.)Z10b
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, meg -- I'd consider starting another plant if I could give it away to a friend, as I'm not sure how many more I can take care of. Any harm if I just leave it alone?

    shavedmonkey -- Let the plant complete the blooming which may last a long time: oh, golly, let's hope so! :) If my goal, however, is to control height and not continue to have keikis form (which is what your hand-pinching method promotes, correct?), but perhaps to promote growth from below, how might I proceed? Thanks for the input.

  • 10 years ago

    javiwa, start a new one there is always someone willing to adopt for cost of postage. Myself included.

    javiwa thanked Julia (1meanmop)
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Oh! OK. :) I may need a primer on how to send by mail to they survive on the receiving end. I'll contact you by PM to get your info - thanks! Would love to share what I have.

    ETA: Dad would have been thrilled.

  • 10 years ago

    Almost always this plant will generate keiki's. Regardless if you pinch off the top or not...

    javiwa thanked shavedmonkey (Harvey in South Fl.)Z10b
  • 10 years ago

    There is no harm in just leaving it alone. It's just that you are already concerned about the height. As shavedmonkey says keikis are common on reed stems. You could wind up with plant on plant on plant.....LOL I have one I allow to grow draped, hanging down. I usually remove the keikis from the tips and plant them back in the pot with mama. Makes for a nice show.

    javiwa thanked meg_w (9b) Bradenton
  • 10 years ago

    meg - Thanks for the tip about replanting w/ mama, esp since being kept indoors, mine are looking a tad sparse. I had time to do further reading this weekend, and found these are particularly susceptible to aphids. I'm already struggling with infestations on my butterfly milkweeds (yes, they do enough damage to prevent the milkweeds from growing), so I can just imagine what they quickly find my epis! :( I think, at least in my yard, placing these outdoors isn't in the cards.

  • 10 years ago

    So, where are you? Somewhere around where your Dad grew the orchid? In Southern California/LA it would be best grown outside in the garden. In that sort of Climate it is unkillable. Flowers sequentially so a flowering head lasts for months.

    The modern hybrids are somewhat reduced in plant size but are a little more difficult to grow.

    Here, the only ones of any value are the modern hybrids, the tough old warriors that the Church promoted as Crucifix orchids have little resale value.

    javiwa thanked arthurm2015
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Arthur. We're in Houston, TX (not sure what zone that puts me in). Indeed, the orchids flourished under Dad's care. I know he always purchased his plants from one of the independent nurseries in the area -- beyond that, I don't know if this is a modern hybrid or not.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    You're either in zone 8b or 9a depending on where in Houston you are. You will probably want to bring the epis inside or at least under a covered patio for the coldest part of winter. Otherwise they should do fine outside.

    javiwa thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Nil13. We're about 20 miles SW of downtown Houston. As prolific as these appear to be, I'm sure I'll have plenty of plantlings to experiment with. The aphids around here, though, are no joke. They've stalled the most hardy of milkweeds (in my yard anyway -- my friend, who lives a mile from here has zero aphids). And even the ladybugs can't keep up!

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