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10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

The highlights of the past week have been some climbers. My current obsession has been 'Apricot Glow' (Josephine Brownell, 1936), whose "Sub-zero Series" credentials are wasted in this garden, but managing to be a great performer even with little frost. This plant has been three years in the ground, own-root, a steady-not-rampant grower with perfectly healthy, pretty leaves. The flowers are in the 3 to 4-inch range and in varying shades between apricot and pink, and each lasts a long time (good substance). The scent is of apples, just like 'Mel's Heritage'. I got it from Vintage and it is apparently not commercially available any more in the U.S., according to HMF.

May 3, 2016. The rose on the right of the arbor is 'Perle d'Or'.

"Arcata Pink Globe" is slowly unfolding up the hill (hard to get a good picture -- very steep ground and nowhere to stand!). This rose has been compared to 'Baltimore Belle' and found not the same, but it looks very much like.

Finally, 'Alba Odorata' (Mariani, 1834), a Hybrid Bracteata frequently found surviving in many old California cemeteries (where I got mine), which could absolutely be grown for its wonderful foliage alone. Its first flush here is never great, despite there being a bazillion buds, because damp discolors the petals and they don't open well, not to mention thrips. This rose's blooms open well and are at their very best when it's the middle of summer and 105 degrees, in full south- and west-facing sun (which it is here).

Even if the first blooms aren't nice, the bud clusters are wonderful: architectural, glandular, and with a proliferation of bracts subtending each bud:

Not a climber but also looking nice right now is "Darlow's Enigma", planted about 3 or 4 years ago in this really tough spot (subsoil, basically, and on a dryish hill). Despite its reputation, it hasn't been rampant, but is giving indications this spring that it is ready to take off (shooting out some longish new canes):

Also not a climber, but included because I'm so enjoying its revival (it suffered a lot during the drought but is making its way back) is my 'Rose du Roi' (of commerce), from Vintage. The HMF photos for 'Rose du Roi à Fleurs Pourpres' look more like this one than their photos for 'Rose du Roi', but Vintage preferred to keep the "of commerce" name because, as explained in their catalog, the current rose being distributed in commerce as 'Rose du Roi à Fleurs Pourpres' is not a Damask Perpetual but a Hybrid Perpetual (which this is not). Okay, my head is spinning...

Comments (19)

  • 10 years ago

    Wow! Gorgeous photos. That first one is too pretty for words.

    User thanked Michaela (Zone 5b - Iowa)
  • 10 years ago

    Oh, you've given me ideas! Gorgeous photographs with which to propel them. Thank you.

    User thanked Dara McKay
  • 10 years ago

    I know, jasmine -- hard to believe, isn't it? Germans and Austrians offer it and that, apparently, is it. Sure, it's a once-bloomer, but many "repeating" climbers are hardly more than that, and this show lasts a fairly long time. Color and bloom form are lovely -- my eyes are constantly drawn to that arbor these days. There really is a "glow" about the blooms.

  • 10 years ago

    Beautiful!! Love them all. I wish you could send cuttings of Apricot Glow and Arcata Pink Globe to Burling, so I could grow them too. :-)

    User thanked summersrhythm_z6a
  • 10 years ago

    Very very handsome, and I want 'Alba Odorata'. I used to grow the Brownell rose 'Golden Climber' here and liked it quite a lot. Probably it made its way down to Italy from a northern European wholesale nursery; it, too, was a once bloomer, but a worthy rose.

    User thanked Melissa Northern Italy zone 8
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    I had Alba Odonata but gave it away. It intimidated me. Possibly that was a mistake, but what is done is done.

    I also had Apricot Glow for a few years and it did not do much for me. Polka is currently not doing much for me in the same spot. I think it is a bad spot, too much shade or root competition from a nearby oak, and I am ready to give Polka away. Rosa moschata nearby will be happy to grow into that spot anyway.

    If anyone local (Bay Area) wants Polka, please let me know.

    User thanked Rosefolly z5
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    Motivated by your mention of 'Golden Climber', Melissa, I just did an HMF advanced search of roses bred by Brownell and there seem to be so many good ones, and a style of rose that appeals to me. I was reminded of a rose I've been attracted to for some time, "Fields of the Wood"/'Rhode Island Red'. Photos of those flowers just make me swoon. It occurs to me that a space along a fence has recently opened up, after I got tired of growing grapes for squirrels and rats...

    'Alba Odorata' should be well-adapted to your garden, Melissa, as it not only survives but looks good all year in pioneer cemeteries without irrigation, and our dry season is longer. Mine is growing as a climber on a wrought-iron fence (not that you can see the fence anymore!) in a remote corner where the hose visits less frequently than other parts of the yard, in rough conditions. I've seen it growing as a huge, mounded shrub, too. It does have intimidating prickles and is very vigorous, but I think you've got a perfect fence and space for it, Rosefolly, and the leaves are so handsome. It is also the best security/perimeter defense device, ever. I would be willing to start another for you, if you desire. It is an exponential grower, once it's spent a year settling in.

    'Apricot Glow' has a primo spot in my garden and it has so far developed relatively slowly (versus typical pace of ridiculously out-of-control around here), so I imagine it might not take well in a marginal spot. I had 'Polka' once, too, at a time when I was auditioning it and other modern "antique reproduction" roses to see if I liked them (Austins, Romantica series, etc.). Flowers pretty enough (on sometimes atrocious plants!), but neither it or any of those made my heart sing -- missing the romance of true history, I guess. Of interest to me is whether or not AG will rebloom in fall, as Vintage claimed, in long-season gardens, at least.

  • 10 years ago

    Very beautiful, as is every area of your garden. I try hard to be happy for others and not jealous, but given the dismal state of my garden it's getting harder and harder. However, miracle of miracles, it's raining today and that can't hurt.

    User thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 10 years ago

    Apricot Glow did not rebloom for me, but then as I said it was a dubious location.

    User thanked Rosefolly z5
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    It rained a bit here yesterday, too, Ingrid -- only 0.25 inch but, as you say, it can't hurt. The latest drought map shows our area as being on the borderline between severe and extreme drought, but most of southern CA is still shown as far worse: exceptional drought. Livermore itself had exactly its average amount of annual rainfall this year, so it doesn't seem as bad as what they say, but groundwater levels are likely still depleted.

    In any case, weather is cyclical (and consensus seems to be that this is simply a "cycle thing" and not directly climate-change related -- yet!), so I imagine the revival of your wonderful garden is relatively just around the corner. It is hard looking at roses in survival mode. What surprises me, though, is how roses that basically stood still while I irrigated only enough to keep them alive, are now sprouting large numbers of new canes -- it's amazing. Old roses, in particular, are very tough.

  • 10 years ago

    Amazing climbers.

    User thanked Spectrograph (NC 7b)
  • 10 years ago

    Love love love

    User thanked Kippy
  • 10 years ago

    Wow, Alba odorata is gorgeous! I've never seen it.

    Love love love Perle d'Or.

    User thanked Anna-Lyssa Zone9
  • 10 years ago

    I keep coming back to read this again, and enjoy the pictures all over again.

    User thanked Rosefolly z5
  • 10 years ago

    Wow your garden is amazing! You made me laugh at one part of your post:

    "... frequently found surviving in many old California cemeteries (where I got mine)..."

    LOL! Never knew cemeteries were a good place to scout for OGRs to propagate... But it makes sense! I wasn't expecting that, so it was funny to me! I don't mean to offend you so please don't take it that way;). You must be a true rose enthusiast to find roses you like here and there and bring small pieces of them to nurture to life in your garden! Good for you and your ingenuity!

    thanks for sharing your beautiful blooms! :)

    User thanked filly_z8bFL
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    filly, cemeteries are one of the BEST places to see old roses in California, though not always a good place to secure propagation material (appropriateness and conservation ethics needing to be taken into account). Planting roses on graves has been a tradition since the Gold Rush, at least. Being a plant ecologist, I drag home lots of odd plant stuff, from all over, but, yes, roses are near and dear -- as they seem to have been to the earliest settlers here, too.

    The 'Perle d'Or' is interesting, Anna-Lyssa, because I got it as a gallon plant from San Francisco's Strybing Arboretum plant sale run by their volunteers and found out later, when I went to plant it, that it was labeled "CLIMBING Perle d'Or". Three years in the ground so far, it doesn't yet show any particular signs of being a climber, but if it turns out to be that, it would be a rarity. The "regular" 'Perle d'Or' can become quite tall, so the label may have just been a misinterpretation.

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    I just finished deadheading and pruning my hedge of Perle d'Or (8 plants). From time to time it throws out a few very lax long canes that fall limply over the top of others, climbing canes mixed in with the regular sturdy ones. I can see how it could be trained as a climber. It would be tricky, though, with its mix of long rigid canes and soft, lax ones. Pruning this hedge always gives me lots of time to ponder over the nature of the growth of this plant. It has so many different growth patterns, all on the same plants. I think of it as a rather complex being. And thorny. Wickedly thorny.

    User thanked Rosefolly z5
  • 10 years ago

    Well, that's interesting, Rosefolly -- I'm glad to hear of your experience. Gee, a few, sporadic climbing canes mixed in with giant candelabras that sprout new growth from every node -- oy! A real conundrum about what to cut and where. Yes, mine is very thorny, too. Funny to read that it is "short" and " thornless (almost)" on the HMF "Description" page! As usual, not in CA.