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Tiller making terrible racket

10 years ago

Hi everyone. I just this tiller used a couple a months ago. It's an old craftsman 5hp rear tune tiller with a new motor. It has had its problems. I got both of the wheels unseized finally. Got a new belt. Actually as I was shooting this video, y'all will witness its death (hopefully temporary) haha. It is stuck in till now. Can't get it back in neutral.
Last time I used it it started making some racket that progressively got worse. We unseized the wheels to take the cover off and look at the belt and pulleys. The belt seems to already be stretched out from the few days I have used it. I suspect there is something up with the gear box. I only paid 150 for the tiller and it had a new motor. The local small engine guy is 70 an hour, so I'd like to fix it myself if I could be pointed in the right direction.
Thanks in advance. I look forward to getting my tiller going again one day hahaha
https://youtu.be/ezCZn7mDTtE

Comments (5)

  • 10 years ago

    Have you drained the gear box oil for clues as metal in the
    oil? Pulling the gear box cover will possibly show you the issue. Have you noticed any signs of metal in the past services? If it’s gears, bearings or Etc
    in the box, hopefully you will easily find parts. When you find the problem, try to link the
    cause. “Good Luck”!

  • 10 years ago

    IMHO, pull the engine, loosen bolts holding two sides of trans and drain oil, put tiller on it's side, remove one wheel, split trans and see what's going on. Make sure you have the exploded parts list for the trans before you start. If I recall correctly from other posts, often the upper portions of the trans develops rust and freezes things up, as oil doesn't get up there. Clean, lube, etc. if required. Also, you'll have to have a new gasket for reassembly I also seem to recall the OEM one is Xpensive and is essentially a piece of paper or very thin cardboard. RTV or similar was used in reassembly. Also do a search on youtube for tiller transmission repair there's various ones. I'll try to attach one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWPvZiIWkQA

    If this looks like more than you want to tackle, local small engine guy or, given the age, replace and sell the engine on CL to lessen the pain.

    Good luck,

    Ev

  • 10 years ago

    Very Good Videos, Information
    and Lots Of Work. IMO some digital camera
    shots would come in handy disassembling and reassembling due to the excess of
    work.

    My Tiller Repairs were front
    tines with cast gear boxes and gear oil vs grease. Pulleys and chains were involved with some simple
    tillers. Except one small Honda Tiller
    the case was welded and no replacements parts offered. We ground the weld to enter the gear box and
    saw the bad gear. My friend opted to buy
    another new gear box as recommended.

    IMO, if you had excessive
    wear on pre 1990s “maintained equipment and reasonably used”, it was not just
    one warned part and you had reasonable time and service from it.

  • 10 years ago

    Hi guys! Thanks so much for the help. So I look around at the belt. There have been issues with that since the day I got it. I opened up the gear box, and I found two gears that are torn up. I looked up the parts for it... and they are "obsolete" at the sears website.

    Here are the part numbers and description according to the manual I downloaded. Any clue as to where I can find these parts affordably? The tiller model is 917-299691. Here is a picture of the two parts. Thanks everyone for your help. It has been very valuable


    http://i.imgur.com/ah6gBag.jpg

    102113X Pinion, Input
    124359X Sprocket, Tine

  • 10 years ago

    917 translates to Roper/Frigidaire so that's an older tiller. You might try googling AYP+ part number and it'll show who has it for sale. WARNING, a lot of small engine sites indicate they "have" a part but when you ordr and pay for, it becomes backordered as they don't have it and order it. A month or two down the road you make a fuss and they refund your money.

    Good luck,

    Ev

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