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Sans 'Mikado' ?

10 years ago

Has anyone seen this hybrid before? I thought the markings were striking but the name dubious, as usual.

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  • 10 years ago

    Too lazy to look but NextObsession just bought a mikado. Maybe if you look through her posts you can find a picture.

    vitorama thanked Mentha (East TN, Zone 6B-7A)
  • 10 years ago

    Thank you Mentha!

  • 10 years ago

    Fernwood has that same look as far as banding but it's a rosette/fountain.

  • 10 years ago

    The seller could only tell me it is from Thailand, it is cylindrica related and its other name is Sans bacularis, another name I've never heard.

  • 10 years ago

    Whatever it is very nice looking Sans!

    vitorama thanked woodnative
  • 10 years ago

    Here are pics of mine for comparison. And below that something I saved from the internet, may be of interest as it shows S. bacularis (I'm wondering if what is sold as Fernwood is actually Fernwood Musica as shown in this pic).

  • 10 years ago

    Some pics of Fernwood I found (mine resembles the last two pics i.e. one single rosette):

  • 10 years ago

    I think I picked this off of Bob Smoley's website - that Fernwood was a nursery in California.

  • 10 years ago

    I wanna be like you guys when I grow up. I have a few Trifasciata and 1 Cylindrica. Yall's different cultivars are gorgeous. Maybe 1 day I'll run across a nursery gold mine...

  • 10 years ago

    Forget the Fernwood! That hallii is stunning!!!!!!! Is that Pink Bat?

    Seriously, thank you for posting those pictures. It does look to me that I have a Fernwood, or that Mikado is already named Fernwood. I hate when growers do that. Just adds to the confusion.

  • 10 years ago

    Katrina, I think by the end of the summer I might be able to add a plant or two to your collection. ;)

  • 10 years ago

    That's what I'm wondering...if Fernwood and Mikado as sold in commerce are different plants - only way to know is grow out the little one....

    The bat has a number, I forgot, I'd have to check my notes but it does have an orange underlay to it, when the seller barerooted it the rhizome was deeply buried and about an 1.5" of the leaf base had no chlorophyll and was orange. Plus, it's an olive green color, very much unlike the other Sans. I'm very fond of that plant.

    Yes, by the end of summer we'll probably all have more than this spring, that's for sure. I've got little tips poking up in many pots.

  • 10 years ago

    Beautiful Sans!

    vitorama thanked Sans2014
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks yall. I have to remember I've only been at this a couple months. They're just all so nice that it's frustrating I haven't found other cultivars locally. Patience, Grasshopper!

    The Hallii is quite intersting. It's the coloring that really caught my attention.

    P.S. What's a hybrid?

  • 10 years ago

    A hybrid is two species or more species crossed together.

  • 10 years ago

    The bat was sold as R2470 - here is a link to the bats portraits R2470

    vitorama thanked NextObsession?
  • 10 years ago

    I just found this site - pics are good, as you can see, orange - but they call it super pink. Super Pink Bat

    vitorama thanked NextObsession?
  • 10 years ago

    Like to look at photos? Here's another site somewhere in Eastern Europe I'm guessing Exotic Plant They call it Malawi Bat - Super Pink.

    vitorama thanked NextObsession?
  • 10 years ago
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    NextO, my pink bat has that orange at the base of the growths too. My plant is growing under way lower light so it doesn't have the thick, beautiful growth yours does.

  • 10 years ago

    When I feel up to it i will post a picture of mine. Its pictures are deceiving, I was expecting a taller plant, mine is only about 8 in tall. It did survive its surgery. Poor thing was stuck together in a net pot. I probably would not have been able to cut the pot if I didn't have my bonsai scissors. I had to break off the pups in order to get all if the mesh. Even after removing the pot I can't separate the cuttings because their roots are so intertwined.

  • 10 years ago

    Sorry you're down n out Mentha...Was your plant's growth stunted bc of its surgery and entanglement, or is that the common size?

  • 10 years ago

    1. My plant came today, and Mentha I have to agree, you said yours is adorable, and mine is too! Jim and I wrestled it around and cut the basket out. Some of the pups are separate now, but they are well rooted and there are so many. I may make two pots. Thank you New Obsession!
  • 10 years ago
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    Katrina, I'm not sure. I just got it. There were a bunch of leaves stuck in the mesh pot to root and the pups decided to come out of the cracks. Look at Barb's picture the right hand side is the huge mass of rooted leaves, the left all of the pups. Or at least that's how mine looked. They are free now so maybe we will get an idea of how their normal growth is in a few months. I will say I'm already in love with it. It's not as grassy and floppy as parva but it does give me the feeling of a short parva.

  • 10 years ago

    I did the same with mine (although I bought it a couple months ago, much smaller than Mentha & Barb's for whatever reason) - cut away that plastic crap - made me mad - like it's just a table decoration or something.... But there is something about this plant - it's dainty and elegant - dunno but I love mine too. Looks like it pups well so there should be plenty passalongs in time. I'm glad you ladies like it.

  • 10 years ago

    The pups that were removed have 5 or 6 leaves already, so I am thinking that they will form a fountain like Fernwood. The part that was inside the basket is such a solid mass, I just think I will have to work them apart. There are pups in there with the leaf cuttings. That was a great find, Next Obsession. I think I am getting a bit obsessed myself.

  • 10 years ago

    They use the mesh pots for hydro-rooting usually but Sans really don't need help rooting all that much.

  • 10 years ago

    Barb - you found it, in my photos several times, LOL.


  • 10 years ago

    I'm glad I found it in your pictures. It's completely different from all the others. Well, I couldn't stand it. I rinsed that mass of plants and gradually teased it apart. I don't think it hurt it at all. Looks good, now I will have two nice plants that can spread their roots and grow.

    i was looking on Ebay and saw one for sale. They even had a little diagram of the grow cup placed inside the outer one. Ours are nicer!

  • 10 years ago
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    I asked on the facebook Sans group. his is the answer I got. "'Mikado' is a trade name for a bunch of S. bacularis leaves planted in a pot." I hope that helps a little bit.

    I may have found the ID for my S. sulcata also. Apparently they are the same plant.

    vitorama thanked Mentha (East TN, Zone 6B-7A)
  • 10 years ago

    I believe it. They (the trade) also chop off cylindrica leaves and plant them in a pot randomly or braid them. But I'm also very pleased to have S.bacularis (aka sulcata)!

  • 10 years ago

    I am too. Thank you so much for sending it to us! (Now if I can get my nursery friend to send me my other plants I could compare them)

  • 10 years ago
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    Have a look at this website. It's Dutch, but has been translated. They seem to be selling two forms of Mikado. Fernwood and bacularis. The Mikado name may have something to do with the way the leaves are grouped in the pot. They have several fancy names for plants they have manipulated in various ways. Heaven forbid, those painted ones are there to look at too. Anyway, the Fernwood plants resemble the Mikados we have and to my eye are a much better match than bacularis. What do you think?

    http://www.planten-kopen.com/en/search/Sansevieria/

    This one is marked sansevieria Fernwood Mikado

  • 10 years ago
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    According to Bob Smoleys Fernwood is a hybrid. And according to this website, Mikado is a shape not a hybrid. That could explain why 'Mikado" has so many names associated to it because it's not a hybrid but how it's grown. So there can be a Fernwood "mikado" a bacularis "Mikado" and even a cylindrica "Mikado" and none of them would be wrong because they are in the Mikado form. Probably the reason for the mesh pot.

    vitorama thanked Mentha (East TN, Zone 6B-7A)
  • 10 years ago

    Yes, that's what I'm thinking.

  • 10 years ago

    So, it looks like we have a big batch of baby Fernwoods. I couldn't be happier with mine. Two nice potfulls! 6 inch pots.

  • 10 years ago

    Big Fernwood is a pretty plant, and I haven't seen it around much, has anyone else?

  • 10 years ago

    Hah! You guys' Mikado are cute and dainty. Definitely female in my mind ;-)

  • 10 years ago

    I almost ordered a Fernwood from Mr. Smoley several years ago, but I decided instead on another hybrid, Druid Hill. I really think Fernwood is nicer. I have only seen the full grown version on the internet.

    Katrina, yes You're right very feminine

  • 10 years ago

    Ooooo, Druid Hill, what does that look like Barb?

  • 10 years ago

    So, here's scoop on Druid Hill. This first pic is one I copied from Smoley's website.

    Now this next one is my plant.

    I have had it for 4 years, so you can see it's pretty slow. The right hand part is the pup which is showing a little new growth. Looks just like Fernwood to me.

    vitorama thanked barbmock
  • 10 years ago

    In the late 1990's, Steve Jankalski crossed Bally 12681 with trifasciata 'Manda's Dwarf (a hahnii) to make S. 'Druid Hill'. Rogers Weld, a fella who ran a nursery in Los Angeles. Calif., created S. 'Fernwood' by crossing S. grandicuspis withe S. suffruticosa. 'Fernwood' is similar to 'Druid Hill, but with longer leaves. I have never seen either of these plants, so cannot speak about them from experience. Mikdo' seems be made-up name.

    vitorama thanked mlaforet05
  • 10 years ago

    Hi Mike,

    Thanks for stopping by. Your input is always welcome. We are having fun with our sans this week.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you for posting those picture Barb. I thought I had some slow growers but 4 years and two growths is pretty darn slow!

    Great clarification mlaforet, thank you for the history!

  • 10 years ago

    Vitorama, I'm just curious, was your Mikado packed into a little mesh cup? And if so, did you cut it out?

  • 10 years ago

    Exactly like yours Barb. You and Mentha described it perfectly. I think maybe mine was not as large as yours, however, because it was in about a 2 inch net pot. I chose not to divide it because it was too small.

  • 10 years ago

    Mine was in a pot, about 2 inches across. It was bursting at the seams. Maybe yours will be ready to come out of that pot next spring.

  • 10 years ago

    I did cut it out of that little net pot, Barb, I just didn't think it was large enough to divide. I wouldn't say mine was bursting at the seams like yours. (Read:envious) lol

  • 10 years ago

    Oh that's good, now the pups can reach out.

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