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space around range?

10 years ago

If I were to have a kitchen with a door coming in one side of it, I am not sure how much space to leave where. There is about 15' total width. I would need at least 3' for doorway, 2' for the base cabinets on one end. 2' for base cabinets on the other end. That leaves about 8' to work with. 3' of that would be the range. I think there should be at least 1' on one side of the doorway in front of those base cabinets....right? Okay, so that leaves 4'. Do I just put 2' on each side of the range?
That would mean it would be a doorway, then 2' base cabinet, range, 2' base cabinet to the corner where it would L around to the sink wall. Or would you split it up differently and put more space on one side or the other or maybe more space on the other side of the door?


I will try to link the plan I am looking it. It would be the alternate kitchen layout option.https://www.allamericanhomes.com/floorplan-detail/rockefeller/

Comments (17)

  • 10 years ago

    Um you do realize your dining room would be a hike from the kitchen?

    As for the kitchen plan, neither one is ideal. Do you have the option to change it so it's more functional?

  • 10 years ago

    We would use the breakfast space for dining. The dining area would be for something else. I know it's not ideal but this is about the best we can find within our budget. I can change the layout a bit but have to keep things mostly as is. I might be able to get a couple more feet to make it 12x15. I would like to put a prep sink in the island on the fridge side. What else would you suggest?

  • 10 years ago

    I was also thinking of trash being in the island on the end near the breakfast area. I'm guessing the island will only be 3' wide. I wonder if it's possible for trash to pull through either side? If not, I *think* I would have it pull out on the dishwasher side. The only other major use it would get would be when prepping veggies on the other side of the island but I am used to using a large bowl to hold scraps and tend to freeze them for broth or compost anyway.

  • 10 years ago

    There are so many things about this plan that are undesirable to me. What drew you to this floor plan?

  • 10 years ago

    Budget mainly. Then prioritizing what we need in a house. I know it's not perfect. I know. I'm just trying to make the best of it.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    If the range position is all you can change, I would suggest scooting the range over a bit so there are 2' of counter run on each side, as you suggested.

    That door into the laundry room is in an unfortunate position. Could you change the walk-in closet in BR2 to a shallower reach-in? That would allow you to push the door to the laundry room back towards the refrigerator wall and give you another foot or so of usable counter space on the range side.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you. Yes, I am hoping to move the closet and fix that situation. I agree, it's not very functional as-is.

  • 10 years ago

    Part of the problem with the Optional Kitchen and putting a prep sink on the island on the refrigerator side is that you are placing your Prep Zone in the middle of one of the busiest places in the house - the path b/w the family entrance (garage) & Laundry Room -and- the rest of the house. I would want at least a 54" aisle in this situation so you don't have people bumping in to you or you trying to dodge people in that path/aisle.

    Prepping on the island - you need enough room for a minimum of:

    1.5" counter overhang + 18" prep sink + 36" workspace (42" would be much, much better) + 1.5" counter overhang = 57" wide island (63" would be much better).

    I will say that trying to prep on the island will create a "barrier island" b/c now you will have to run around the island to get to the Cooking Zone.

    If you, instead, prep b/w the range and sink, that would be better. The island is no longer a barrier if you are careful to place the refrigerator so it's in front of the aisle b/w the range and island. If you can move the range down a bit (by changing BR2's closet), then you should have plenty of space to prep b/w the range and sink. Be sure there's a wide enough aisle b/w the island and the range to allow you to go to/from the refrigerator & sink easily.

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    How wide will each aisle be?

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    There will not be room for any seats at the island, with the possible exception of the short end on the "Breakfast" side.

    25.5" deep sink run + 45" aisle + 41.5" island with seats + XX" aisle + 25" deep tall cabinet (24" + 1" for door and handles/knobs) = 137"

    15' = 180"

    So... 180" - 137" = 43" for the aisle b/w the island and refrigerator run...and that's assuming the refrigerator does not overlap the island. If it does, then add 6" more to the "tall cabinet" side and that leaves you with 37" for an aisle.

    With no seating, the island can be shallower (>41.5") and you will have room for that busy aisle/path b/w the garage and the rest of the house.

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    Laundry Room - this is my personal feeling, but I would not want my dirty (or clean) laundry on display to anyone who comes in via the garage - even close friends & other family members. There's probably nothing you can do about it with this plan, but I wanted to point it out.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you. Re the laundry room...yeah I know. I don't know where else to put it. Afa all the measurements you listed I will admit it's overwhelming to me. I don't want seating at the island so no worries there. I see your point about getting to and from the fridge and such. I would probably prep to the left of the prep sink so all the prepped stuff would be right there on the end of the island by the range. I would prefer to prep at the island as I like to be able to work and talk. If I was in the corner I would feel like I was...stuck in a corner. LOL Plus we tend to have a few people working at once in the kitchen. One doing the never ending dishes. One working the stove top and one prepping. That's the most common scenario. I like the idea of making the aisle between the fridge and the island and little wider. I mean, it stinks afa kitchen work but does help with traffic running through.


    Ideally I would have a kitchen with no traffic going through. I really wanted a U shaped kitchen with island and there is a plan where I could achieve that. But I think I would have to make so many changes to it that it would end up out of budget completely. That plan DID have the laundry back by the bedrooms though. That was nice....

  • 10 years ago

    Do you mean changes to the entire house or changes to the Kitchen? Maybe post that other plan?

  • 10 years ago

    Changes to both. I would flip the dining and kitchen, making it a U kitchen with the range on the right side. There would be stairs between that kitchen wall and the bedroom sections. The living/kitchen section and the bedroom/bath section would need to be widened to 30' instead of 26'. I might even need to add a few feed to the garage side of the house to get space for mudroom and use part of the living for the den since there is no formal dining room I can use for that purpose. I'm pretty sure it would make this one cost a whole lot more than the first one. https://www.allamericanhomes.com/floorplan-detail/gentry/

  • 10 years ago

    At first glance, I like that second house plan a lot better.

  • 10 years ago

    Me too. But I think it will end up out of budget. :(

  • 10 years ago

    Can you only choose floor plans from that website? I would think making changes is costlier than choosing a plan you like?

  • 10 years ago

    Does your builder have plans of his own?

  • 10 years ago

    this is what he uses