I love the pattern on the leaves - I'd take it home but that's what I usually do....

I would have but it was in an 18" pot and cost $60. Unless we do a group split, it is too rich for my blood.

Wow...he's a force to be reckoned with. Handsome fella for sure

Oh.

That's quite a sans jungle. I wonder what it would look like if it was singled out. It might have to sit up high on a table so the leaves could cascade. A little too big for a hanging basket.

I wanted to pull it out to photograph it, Barb, but that place was so stuffed with plants, I would have caused major chaos. I'll keep an eye on it though.

Russ, you crack me up. I guess I don't realize how fortunate I am to have the access I do to plant varieties. Although I seem to have more access to laurentii types whereas the Cali folks seem to have more access to the desert types. The irony is, most of these plants come from FL!

i can't get this plant out of my head, of course, being obsessed as I am, but do you think it's worth $60? And do you think it could recover?

There are a few nurseries I go to around here but this place seems to have the best variety.

Hi Lori, personally $60 is a bit rich for sans other than a really rare one. Like some of the Thai beauties on Ebay. Another issue with it, no ID.

With better watering, I don't think those old leaves would rehydrate enough to be vertical again. And I still think the leaves might be etiolated from lack of bright light, so are taller than they should be.

Do you see any smaller sans in the store that look like they could be the same one?

Russ

That is really pretty. The pattern looks like my NOID sans but mine is not that tall.

Vitorama, have you ever looked in Ikea for plants? I found my Whitney in the south Philly store for $6.99 in a 6" pot and they had a lot of other plants as well. There should be a couple near you, Elizabeth (I was born there) and Paramus.

Russ- You are really right, despite the size that is a lot of money for a plant in distress. When I see some of those Thai hybrids, I'd rather spend the money there, but I would even consider that too expensive so I'm just getting ahead of myself.

I wish there was a smaller size, though I would have owned it already.

Akrrm- It never even dawned on me to look at IKEA for plants. I love the store but don't go there often because I find it so overwhelming. Maybe I'll check out the one in Patamus, just out of curiosity. Thanks!

Peoples, don't forget that sharing sans doesn't always require an entire plant. Species and hybrids will all propagate true from a leaf, and collectors can almost always spare a leaf even if they don't have an extra plant to trade. Varieties and cultivars, such as the many trifasciata types, are a different story. Some prop true, others not, but for those that do all you need is a leaf.

Obviously you need a lot of time to go from leaf to a mature plant, but that's part of the fascination of sans. Seeing transformation from an immature little rosette to a big mature plant that looks completely different is amazing.

Russ

Russ, you might be right on an ID but it could also be the Sansevieria hyacinthoides that grows like unwanted weeds at South Florida.. I got one now that puped from S. guineensis Siam Silver or 'Tenzan'. My first Hyacinthoides. I saw a video that showed them around 5 ft. tall.

Stush

Hey Stush, I thought about hyacinthoides for Lori's sans but I checked Chahinian's book for the height and he says 30 inches tall, only 2 1/2 feet. The ones at the beach ramp across the street from my folk's place in Cocoa Beach are about that height, maybe 3 feet. Out of curiosity, I'll measure them this Sunday when I'm there.

Chahinian has sometimes been in error on heights, I've grown sp. Uganda much taller than the 18 inches he says it grows to in his book.

Russ

Russ, I can tell you stories about how high some thing can grow. I bought some Red Leaf Birch trees. Said they only grow to 10 to 15 feet. Well, I cut them down after they grew taller than my house at 40 ft. I also have some Japanese Maples that are small growing. Well they topped out at 30 ft. before I cut them down. Hard to find dwarf trees that don't over take your yard.

Wow Stush! You must have magic dirt in your yard!

If you can grow crape myrtles where you are, there are patented dwarf hybrid varieties, so you can pick your height and your flower color. The ones that have Indian names can tolerate cold to Zone 6 where you are. Here's a website with info and pics. These are very popular here.

http://www.wilsonbrosonline.com/Plants/Plant-Files/Trees/Crape-Myrtle-Trees.aspx

This said, with your magic dirt, who knows how tall these miniatures would get.

Russ

Thanks Russ, I did buy one and it didn't survive our winter. And we had a mild winter this time.

Interesting Stush. Oh well, I guess you have to stick to the really cold-tolerant trees. Unfortunately, I haven't heard of anyone working on dwarfing any of those types, but maybe you'll eventually find one.

Russ

Aubritiana?

Btw Russ, I visited this plant again Saturday and it is standing more ypright than it was. Not fully standing, but not nearly as droopy. Perhaps watering was the problem?

Glad to hear Handsome is doing better. It means there's hope for a couple of Jared's droopy leaves.

Well, if it finally gets completely up on it's feet, maybe it'll be worth the $60. Not!

I went to Cocoa Beach on Sunday to see my brother and stepfather, the house is just across the street from the beach where there's a beach access ramp with thousands of a sans I'm assuming is hyacinthoides. I brought back several small offsets and one tall leaf that is close to 5 feet tall, 90% of the rest were 3 1/2 to 4 feet. Here are 2 closeups of the pattern on the tall leaf, how does it compare to the one in the store?

3rd pic is aubrytiana

4th pic is a hybrid fischeri X kirkii.

Any of these match up??

Russ

hyacinthoides?

aubrytiana

fischeri X kirkii

To my inexperienced eye, the closest match to hers is Aubrytiana. The Hyacinthoides markings seem blurred, and there's no "frame" or trim on the leaf. The fischeri X kirkii is pretty darn close too though. It just seems the markings are in reverse.

IMHO, your beach sans does not look like my $60 sans(notice I'm referring to it with ownership now). The patterning looks different, the leaves not as wide.

The other two you are showing looks more like it, aubrytiana and kirkii X fischeri cross, both beautiful, btw.

I want to live on a beach where 5' Sans grow wild!

While I was typing, Kayrina was typing the same thing! Lol. Brilliant minds....

Those sans at the beach were growing in pure white sand, it's amazing they can reach such heights growing in such poor conditions. And they're in full sun all day. In Africa these flat-leaved sans prefer growing under and among some cover such as shrubs, it's the cylindrical-leaved types that grow in full sun. Of course summer rains here probably help them get through the heat.

Katrina, your inexperienced eye isn't so inexperienced. The mottling on hyacinthoides is blurred and indistinct, definitely different from aubrytiana and the hybrid.

Russ

It sold!! Someone else thought it was a standout besides me.

I wonder if it was someone that read this thread?

Did you go back to buy it?

I have mixed feelings when that happens. On the one hand I'm happy someone is finally going to love it, but I usually want that person to be me! It looks like you've found other

....interesting and beautiful plants though. If you want them, you better hurry! Someone's loving your standouts!

Akrrm, I didn't go back to buy it. $60 was too rich for my blood plus Katrina hooked me up with a leaf cutting that looks exactly the same so I'm hoping to have a smaller version of it if it roots. That would be funny if someone reading this bought it. That wouldn't bother me, I did say where it was so that is always a possibility. I only hope it goes to a true Sans collector, not just a seller.

Katrina, I have mixed feelings too. I was surprised it sold only because it wasn't a typical Sans but where I live is heavily Asian and they consider Sans good luck so often give them as gifts. That would be a more likely scenario to me. I hope it went to a good home is well. I didn't find another yesterday that I bought, but I have Jake. He's the man. Lol

I hope he roots for you, but no worries if he doesn't. Jared has about 3 pups so far and he WILL be divided one day. He also has some rhizome bulge in a few spots.

Cool story about that sans, it's possible someone reading here noticed your comments about it Lori. And knew exactly where that store is!!

Keep us posted on the adventure with rooting Katrina's leaf.

Russ

Snake plant...the best things in life come free.