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mislabelled clems

10 years ago

I bought a couple of clems the other day, both mislabelled. I think I know the ID of one, but I'm scratching my head over the other. Both were grown by Costa Farms.


1. Large pink, with a deeper bar. This one was labelled as "Mrs. N. Thompson". Granted, I've seen a lot of variations in Mrs. N. Thompson colors in pics, but... seriously. Costa Farms grows Abilene, and I think that's what this one is:



2. The second one is still puzzling me. It's a small mauvy bluey purpley flower. The color in the first pic is pretty true-to-life -- I held it up against the flower to compare. The plant was COVERED in blooms (we've had rainstorms all day, so in the pics a lot of the blooms are gone). Most of the flowers have four tepals, but up to six. You can see in the pics how much the color fades. Costa Farms grows Bonanza, Galore, and Jackmanii... or maybe it's Arabella? I don't know enough about this type of clem to have a good guess.




Any input welcomed!

Comments (15)

  • 10 years ago

    Z7 TN -- but the bloom timing doesn't really matter, because these are both fresh out of the nursery. They've been forced to bloom, regardless of their normal blooming season.

  • 10 years ago

    I have never heard of a clematis being "forced" to bloom out of season.......and I used to work with a major west coast wholesale grower :-) "Fresh out of the nursery" wouldn't necessarily mean they'd been forced - even if that was something that could be done.

    I'd suspect both are blooms that have somewhat faded in original color due to exposure to strong sunlight. I'd say the first is Dr. Ruppel and the second might be Bonanza. It is possible it could be Galore, although that dark a flower is unlikely to fade to that almost silver/whitish blue. As Babs notes, it is neither Jackmanii nor Arabella - both the flower configuration and color are way off for those.

  • 10 years ago

    Call it what you will. Considering that I had the chance to buy an Etoile Violette that was in full bloom at the beginning of April this year, I'm not going to jump to any conclusions about normal bloom times based on purchase date. ;-)

    But also keep in mind that these plants were grown at Costa Farms in South Carolina -- so forcing or no forcing, it's not safe to assume that they are blooming at their "natural" blooming period for here in TN.

    Thanks for your ideas. I'm doubtful about fading on the pink one, since there are new blooms opening the same color. I just realized this afternoon that I've got an Abilene coming to me from a previous order that I had forgotten about -- I hate it when that happens! -- so I can compare the two whenever the second one decides to bloom.

    OTOH, fading is a definite consideration on the small-flowered one. I'm still confused about it, though -- and it doesn't help that clem color so often comes out entirely wrong in photos.

    Here's a couple of Arabella pics I've come across. They look very similar to my flowers -- again with the proviso that I've never seen the true Arabella color in person -- but Costa Farms doesn't list it as one of the plants they grow:


  • 10 years ago

    P.S. -- don't be misled by the more purplish cast in the first pic of the large-flowered pink clem. The second pic represents the true color of that flower much better.

  • 10 years ago

    Your second vine is NOT Arabella - I grow that one myself. The leaves also don't look right for Arabella. And it is a non-climbing variety as well.

  • 10 years ago

    I'm with GG about it not being Arabella as I grow it as well. Besides Arabella being non-climbing, yours is the wrong color, wrong size, and Arabella has tepals with a lot of substance.

  • 10 years ago

    I've decided to label this one "Bonanza?" for now. Once it settles in and produces better flowers, I'll be able to figure it out more easily.

    Thanks for the input!

  • 10 years ago

    Hey Amazindirt!

    Sorry to hear we mislabeled some of our clematis.
    : (

    You're right on both counts --- the first is 'Abilene' and the second is 'Bonanza'.

    Apologies for the inconvenience. I hope you enjoy your clematis!

    ---Justin, Costa Farms Horticulturist

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Justin! I have bought several of your clems this spring. I'm especially enjoying Chevalier right now, which is blooming its little head off. Very nice plants, and a great price. Even with the mislabelling, I'm a happy customer. So no worries!

  • 10 years ago

    Glad to hear, Amazindirt! If there's anything else you need, just send me a message.

    : )

    ---Justin, Costa Farms

  • 10 years ago

    How nice that the company responded and identified your clematis.

  • 10 years ago

    Anyone know what the bright pink is in his last photo? I am not clear about whether the last few shots are all the same plant.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    All the pink clems in my photos are Abilene. They're all pics of the same plant. The last photo shows the color of the pink flower more accurately than the first photo does -- one problem with clematis photos is that it's so difficult to capture their true colors!

  • 10 years ago

    Wow! Thanks. That does look like a good pink! I really like it.

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