? Gardenia?

In my part of the world it is a real survivor and outwits road crews with bush hogs by tip rooting readily, leaving lots of new plants when the upper parts get chopped off. And by the next spring, it's bloomig again.

Are the buds pink? It's not so different from my mystery white rose, which looks to be a rambler. I still haven't figured out what it is. It has a fabulous fragrance though.

I think it is gardenia. Thanks! The smell matches the description. Pugetsoundgardener, I like your rose a lot!

Huh. I can't find any gardenia that looks like that in the center, but I'm no expert.

gibsongirl, if your rose has yellowish buds, I think 'Gardenia' is a very good call. I wonder if 'Silver Moon' could be another possibility?

pugetsoundgardener, have you considered the possibility of your rose being a Noisette or Noisette Hybrid? There are several roses with similar flowers, so habit, foliage and other details (buds, stipules, prickles) will probably be more useful for settling on an ID.

Lovely roses both!

Virginia

Virginia - Haha I thought you were talking about a Gardenia, not a rose called Gardenia. I have all the details on my white rose up here:

IDs needed: collection of roses at 100+ year old house

Which I think you've seen. But it's a bit buried in that post which now contains 4 different roses, so I'm happy to give it again.

This is a large bush with flexible canes. My estimate of the cane length at this point is 25'. It's throwing out canes in every direction, and where they're running along the ground they're actually rooting in and it's sending up new plants. I dug one up and it has quite substantial roots as you can see. The buds are pink and it blooms a blush pink fading to white. It has the most spectacular fragrance. It wouldn't get much sun where it is even if it wasn't buried in a hydrangea bush, so it seems to be quite shade tolerant. The suggestion I've had so far is an unidentified hybrid sempervirens rambler. Not too many people have weighed in though.

And now I feel like I've hijacked Gibsongirl's post. But maybe between us we can pull in more experts?

My original thought- just going from the flower and not from the plant or foliage- was 'Adélaide d'Orléans', so it's interesting to hear that someone out there thinks it might be a hybrid sempervirens. I don't grow it or know it, but have a look at the HMF photos to see what you think?

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.32.0&tab=36

What I can see of a stipule in your photos looks a bit glandular, but I really can't tell if it's fringy, which would indicate Multiflora ancestry...

I don't think your rose is 'Gardenia' (or a gardenia, LOL), but gibsongirl's rose looks similar. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.2904&tab=36

BTW, have a look at the leaf photo of 'Gardenia' on the first page of photos. If you can supply a similar photo of a leaf from your rose and/or a good view of the stipule, that might be useful. Also, an unobscured photo of a bud...?

But, yeah, it might be better to post those at your original post about this rose rather than hijacking this one...

Virginia

They are posted on the original post :)

I've had Adelaide d'Orlenas suggested to me (it's a hybrid sempervirens), and it did look the closest of the suggestions. My main reservation is that it's described as having a mild fragrance. Mine has a particularly strong fragrance.

Pugetsoundgardener, your rose is beautiful! I'm pretty convinced mine is gardenia. Thank you all for your help. I have the original growing in the part shade and a second one growing in full sun. The difference in sunlight doesn't seem to bother it.

Apparently these old roses are really shade tolerant. Is yours scented? It's beautiful!

Yes it has a really amazing scent! I wish I know how to describe it.

I know! I was asked to describe mine and he best I could come up with was spicy rose.

Virginia - I just read back through and realized you'd asked for a couple more photos which I'd completely missed. Whoops! I dug through my pile of photos and found a couple bud shots and what I think is the stipule. Let me know if I've gotten the wrong part or if you need anything else. I can grab some more photos if needed when it's light tomorrow.

I don't feel so bad hijacking this now that gibsongirl has her ID. :)