It looks like rudbeckia to me too.

Thanks for the confirmation. Rudbeckia is one of those plants that don't like caliche and limestone. I put it in some clay but it gets brutal western sun.

Depending on where they come up, they tend to dry up and croak here but I can't really say how other kinds would do because the only kind I grow is R. hirta. One year a chance plant came up late in the summer & bloomed the next spring but I have no idea where it came from. After they bloom they die or else look very ratty once it gets hot. Some that come around late never make it to bloom time in full sun but I never have more than 4 or 5 that come up. People up the street grow some kind of big but low bushy perennial type that blooms late summer with a south exposure but it takes up the whole front of the house. Uh, no thanks, I'll just stick with the occasional hirta. Its a space issue. Doesn't it seem like a lot of people complain about rudbeckia aggressively taking over native areas?? It does to me.

I better move it and not attach much hope to it. It is in western sun. There is a place down by a stream that has acres of it but that is on bottom land 20 miles away.