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Cedar fence staining question

10 years ago

Hi everyone,

I am not sure if this is the appropriate forum to ask this question - if it isn't, please let me know which one to go to!

I have cedar fence around my backyard. It was put up about 4 years ago, and was stained with the semi-solid Benjamin Moore Arborcoat stain by some painters. Oh dear, even just after a couple of years, it started to look bad and at this point, I think that it needs to be re-stained. However, my neighbours who had theirs done at the same time with other brands' stains (they cannot remember but not BM!), their fence (same cedar fence) still looks good!!! Yikes...

For our extreme weather and high UV index here in Calgary, what type of fence stain would look the best over time? I understand that eventually, all fences will have to be re-stained periodically, but I was hoping that it would last more than just 3 or 4 years.... I don't want to go solid or anything that will eventually peel off though.... any advice would be most appreciated!

Comments (18)

  • 10 years ago

    Aw..now we're into fencing..that's ok!

    When I put up mine up in 1981 with spruce only, except post, .. [still standing] the best stain out there was Oil based Olympic from Canadian Tire [confirmed by my neighbor also who was a paint salesman for somebody else] he was totally right, was good for many many years..the new stuff, [of course cant get oil anymore] doesn't last a darn and peels off! Had Behr and others,..what's the point go latex when paint washes down the sure line.

    At this point, I can't give you any advise with anything I know of which doesn't peel off. If it was me...well, let it be, cedar looks good on it's own and last a long time without painting in our dry climate. If I need to replace my fence then I go pressure treated.

    ostrich thanked Konrad..just outside of Edmonton Alberta
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Konrad! A guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do.... even though fencing is not my kind of thing!!! Sigh.... LOL

    I should look into the oil based stuff. I also see that Lowe's has that Australian Timber Oil stain by Cabot. However, I just have not worked with oil-based stains before, so I need to do more homework on that.

    If anyone has any suggestion on water-based stains, I would be most grateful!

    Thanks again.


  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Paint manufacturers were forced out of the oil based because of the green people.

    ostrich thanked Konrad..just outside of Edmonton Alberta
  • 10 years ago

    I used a product by Sansin on a cedar structure we added last fall. It is water-based and it was really easy to use. They had a wide variety of translucent through opaque stain colours. So far it still looks good this spring, so hopefully it will wear well over the next few years. It is not supposed to peel (but we'll see). I believe it is popular with people who have log homes.

    ostrich thanked Violetjune Zone 3
  • 10 years ago

    You need to use oil base stain. None they sell anymore say they are for exterior use but work fine I did my deck and pergola in varathene stain kona and it's been years and will never peel as its soaked into wood. I do have lower part of my deck done in the crappy product made by behr it's what they try and sell you when you ask about exterior deck paints. Don't use it. A year later it peeled I'm just waiting for the uv and water to help peel the rest so I don't have to sand it ,next year I will kona the entire deck. Just be careful with the oil as its a mess and will destroy anything

    ostrich thanked mattpf (zone4)
  • 10 years ago

    mattpf and violetjune, thank you for the tips! I am going to look into those products. Thank you!!!

  • 10 years ago

    Shazam, that would be super helpful! Thank you..... please let me know once you have found it -:)

  • 10 years ago

    Forget the box stores and go to a general paint store. They have products that last and I can't recall the name now. Lots of houses are cedar sided here and the general paint products last 5-10 years.

  • 10 years ago

    SCG, please let me know when you remember the name! The thing is, the sun is Calgary is just really strong so no wood stain here is probably going to last as long as it does in BC.

  • 10 years ago
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    Agree...for a reason it's called sunny Alberta.

  • 10 years ago

    Are stains and water protectors (makes the water bead on top of the wood) different? I stained/water protected our deck 3 years ago with an oil based brand, and it doesn't peel off at all, it just soaks in...but it still disappears (for us anyway). I don't know if the wood is just dry and quickly sucks it up, or if the sun breaks it down or what. But it desperately needs to be done again.

    So I don't know if I just used crappy stuff or if retreating the wood is just going to be a every-second-year kinda thing. Ugh. If we ever build a deck again, we'll spend money on metal spindles. I HATE doing those stupid spindles!

  • 10 years ago

    Weeper, the previous owners of our home used a water protector product like you describe on our deck. The water would bead up, but after several years it now soaks in. I did notice that in a place where the wood was covered by furniture that we just moved, it still beads up. I think the protective coating just wears off with exposure to sun and rain.

  • 10 years ago

    I would respectfully disagree about the sun strength. We are often the sunniest place in Canada (Winterpeg is the other top contender) and often much warmer than you.

    Not all stains are created equally and General paints carries professional quality stuff. Not the price point junk in box stores. The lighter the stain the more often you will have to do it as it is not as UV resistant.

    Good luck.

  • 10 years ago

    Ostrich, are you still looking? So there's a product called Penofin that is generally considered to be very good however it is very, very, very expensive.

    ostrich thanked shazam_z3
  • 10 years ago

    SouthCountryGuy,

    It is not a matter of just the amount of sun, but the region's altitude. Due to Calgary's high altitude there is less atmosphere here which means less UV protection. Combine that with our crazy winters and these products have a really tough time here.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Shazam. Yes, I am still looking! As the plants are all around the fence now, I would like to wait until fall, when the weather is drier and when the leaves are gone :-)

    Where can I buy Penofin from please?

  • 10 years ago

    Timbertown sells it. You might have to special order it. Visit penefin.com for more dealers.

    ostrich thanked shazam_z3
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