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Repeat flowering: Jasmina vs Laguna

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

I've removed a New Dawn rose from near my porch which has pale colored stone pillars. I would love to have input on repeat flowering for lLaguna vs Jasmina. I love the pink and cupped form of Jasmina as well as the flexible canes but I'm afraid it may get lost against the pale stone as ND did ( not to mention ND's thuggishness). So the more assertive color of Laguna may possibly work better.

I absolutely would prefer a good repeat: maybe not quite the spring flush but not a sparse repeat since it will be in a very visible spot.

in reading older posts, it seems like there were complaints about the repeat bloom of Laguna ( and some complaints about Jasmina for the same reason). I did read reviews on helpmefind: not that helpful.

i am aware of the need to wait for maturity of climbers so I'm looking for eventual repeat (3-4 years). Not worried about cane hardiness.

I was originally going to put in a Viking Queen but hesitated because of the light pink blooms ( I don't know why I seem to keep going back to the same colors.)

Comments (17)

  • 9 years ago

    Viking Queen is a lovely medium pink, not that light.

    oldworldroses z6aSW OH thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
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    oldworldroses, my bareroot this year VQs are both putting on a couple of buds and I'm going to let them bloom as I'm dying to see them. I'll post pics when they finally do, although It could be a couple of weeks. I'd also considered LAGUNA and Jasmina before going for the VQ. I still hope to find a place for Jasmina in the future... so pretty.

    oldworldroses z6aSW OH thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
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    I am glad to hear Laguna repeats well. I planted both Jasmina and Laguna last year, Laguna had more winter dieback (in a spot facing the weather), it's in bloom now, but it's short -less than 2' tall. I am not sure if Laguna is cane hardy and can climb here in my zone 6a garden, but I just bought another one-an own root from JP's rose sale for $9.99, love the blooms. Jasmina is in a little protected spot from the chilly wind, it's about 3' tall with a lot of buds. This is their 1st time to have blooms/buds, can't tell you about the repeating speed yet. There is a hot pink climber I really like, it's called Pretty In Pink Eden, it repeats pretty fast. You might like that one too. If it's a big spot, you can grow 2 climbers to have more blooms.........

    oldworldroses z6aSW OH thanked summersrhythm_z6a
  • 9 years ago

    Laguna is one of the hardier climbers. I agree with oldrosarian on her assessment on both Jasmina and Laguna. Laguna has been continually in bloom on my fence since early May and is still putting out new buds. It usually takes a break in the hottest weather (100 F) and then repeats again in September. It can grow quite large so it may need some bottom cane management if you are trying to grow it in a smaller space. Fragrance is good.

    oldworldroses z6aSW OH thanked chris2486
  • 9 years ago

    That's nice to know Chris. Do you think Laguna would be cane hardy here in zone 6a when it's older? I really hope so........

    Oldrosarian, Which growing zone are you in? Is it cane hardy for you? How old is your Laguna?

  • 9 years ago

    Have you looked at Kordes Rosanna? I planted her own root last year and she had no dieback in my zone 5b garden. Healthy, healthy foliage and vigorous growth plus nice vivid, but not garish, flowers. She has a couple of buds so far but we had a spate of wicked cold temps, mid teens, in April that killed all of the tender new leaf growth on all of my roses. Even my hydrangeas have not fully leafed out yet.

    Ramblin Red, bought own root last late summer also survived through the winter in a pot sunk in the ground. It has a few buds this year. The color is similar to the original Knockout Rose, bred by the same breeder, a nice cherry red with no orange tones. She's still pretty small but growing nicely. No scent though if this is a requirement. Others recommend 'Quadra' and believe she is less stingy for rebloom. Nippstress prefers Quadra over Ramblin Red for repeat. I have her too. She also went through winter in a pot. Her flowers are a deep rosy red and a bit smaller than the RR rose but still pretty. Her growth doesn't seem as vigorous but I'm sure she'll catch up soon.

    I loved Compassion but had trouble with cane dieback. I had 4 flushes in our short growing season on a first year own root rose. Her flowers are a peachy pink and yellow blend and she smells heavenly. Maybe it's warm enough in your zone to grow her without winter damage since she is such a beautiful, healthy rose.

    Sharon

    oldworldroses z6aSW OH thanked enchantedrosez5bma
  • 9 years ago

    How about Seminole Wind? A brighter color and repeats pretty well.

    oldworldroses z6aSW OH thanked Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland
  • 9 years ago

    I'll just give a warning on Jasmina. She is thin caned and best in my opinion grown on something like a obelisk. The flowers did not like my weather conditions. Flowers ball not only in rain but also high humidity. Most of the summer she had botrytis on all of her flowers. It was a shame as I'm sure in a drier environment this rose would be fabulous.

    oldworldroses z6aSW OH thanked Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
  • 9 years ago

    My Laguna is three years old in my PNW 7 zone. The rain also doesn't spoil the flowers. and we had had three strong thunderstorms.

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you all. I have already bought all 3 - Laguna, Jasmina and VQ. Good to know about Jasmina, Patty. this is the exact type of real world experience I need to know about. I think I will plant it with an obelisk.

    Good to hear about Laguna's repeat Oldrosarian and Chris. I let ND get a bit too rambunctious because I was a softie about cutting back canes with buds. The fragrance of Laguna is a good selling point for me if her repeat is good.

    thank you Vaporvac : you and I seem to be in sync with our rose choices. I need to figure out how to post pictures on this forum:)

    Sharon, I have Compassion planted elsewhere as I do Pretty in Pink.

    Enchantedroses, I did look at Rosanna, I can't for the life of me remember why I did not pick her : lack of fragrance maybe?

    My Quicksilver band died on me, possibly because of all the rain we had when I planted it. Should have put it in a pot first. I'm in mourning :(

    I am so grateful to all of you for your help: this is why I love this forum.


  • 9 years ago

    Laguna is definitely cane hardy in my zone 5b/6a area. I planted a grafted one that looked like absolute rubbish at Home Depot last year, it was wilted, had BS all over, some broken canes, and they were about to throw it away when I asked to buy it and it was marked down to $2. All I did was water it, cut it back, keep it in my garage and in 2-3 weeks it was leafing back out. I planted it in the ground in mid September and this year it has 3 canes at least 7 feet tall and is still growing like crazy. It bloomed well in the spring, though not very heavily but I'm sure it is just still busy putting down roots. It was hardy to the tips over winter with no protection and in a very open area.

    oldworldroses z6aSW OH thanked braverichard (6a, North MO)
  • 9 years ago

    Rosanna has very little scent but she survived our cold MA winter with flying colors so she's a keeper for me :)

    oldworldroses z6aSW OH thanked enchantedrosez5bma
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    Richard, Do you have a lot of chilly wind in the winter? That's the only thing I'd think you might not have in your zone, I am in zone 6a by the Great Lakes in NY, but Laguna is not cane hardy here. In that spot I have Coral Dawn 1st, then added Laguna last year, and this year I added Dublin Bay since the first 2 couldn't climb.......it's interesting we are all in the same zone, but have all different results. Please post a pic when it's in bloom. Mine is blooming now. :-) Here is a pic of my Laguna, you can see I missed one winter dieback cane there......

  • 9 years ago

    Actually yes I do, you may have more wind, not sure, I garden in a pretty open area with homes situated on 500 acres that used to be farm land. To date only 50 acres has been built on, so in the middle of my garden it is quite windy always as there are no trees or buildings near by to reduce wind strength and intensity.

  • 9 years ago

    oldworldroses, I would love to hear how your Viking Queen, Compassion, Laguna and Jasmina did for your this season Also wonder how New Dawn fare during her transplant to your neighbors yard. I'd be happy to walk you through posting pics if you still have difficulty with that.

  • 2 years ago

    Thought i’d add my experience to this old post. Im in zone 5/6. in my laguna‘s first year, it had bad black spot and bad die back. it is now in its third year. last winter was average coldness. canes are hardy to the very tip. my laguna is planted next to my house wall which is supposed to keep it warm. not sure if it helped. but its a very windy area. no sign of blackspot yet this year. it gets soooo large, lateral branches grow uncontrollably. needs lots of prunning. it has okay repeats.