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Is my adenium worth saving?

So, this is the fourth adenium obesum I bought from a local garden centre a few months ago. Yesterday,
I noticed that it had
not been grown from a cutting like the other adeniums on the window cill in the conservatory, but that it had what looked like
quite a substantial caudex under the soil line.

I went out to get a better pot for it this afternoon, and having read tons of info on this forum about repotting - giving me enough confidence to have a go, I started straight away, even though it has quite a nice number of buds ready to flower (second flowering).

This is what it looked like before I started:

With every bit of uncovering I got more impressed with the size of the caudex, I'd really not expected it to be so large.


But then, shock horror: root rot. And not just a tiny bit.

Here's the plant cleared of most of the soil/medium:

And here's the side with the root rot:

Close up:

So, I've been cutting, and cutting, and here's what it looks like now:

I've put cinnamon on the big cut, as well as on the places where I cut some of the little roots at the top of the caudex. There are two more black, soft-ish spots on two other big roots, of which I really doubt whether or not to cut them out. Please advise...


For now, I don't intend to repot the plant until Sunday, or maybe even later if you think that would be better with such a big cut.

I think, as someone with no experience at all, that once the cuts have healed, it will still make a nice plant to look at facing the healthy side of the caudax. What do you experts think?


Thanks so much in advance for your advice!!

Conny

Comments (17)

  • 10 years ago

    Put cinamon for the wound and let the plant dry in shadow for a few weeks.

    (Hi conny, zet kaneelpoeder voor de wond en laat de plant een week of langer in schaduw.)

  • 10 years ago
    Thanks Stuart!
    So I have to leave it not just for a few days, but for a few weeks. omg.... I'm not going to get a lot of sleep in the weeks to come, caring for my babies
  • 10 years ago

    Stuart, sorry to bother you. Would you recommend cutting out the 3 darker (softer) spots as shown in the last 2 pictures as well or leave them as they are? Thank you!!

  • 10 years ago

    It would be worth scooping the little dark areas off, seeing as you going to be hanging it for a few weeks. Cinnamon or Sulfur dust is good.

    What are the dark marks at the end of the large roots?

    There cannot be even a spot of beige/brown left when cutting. Has to be cream to white.

    Best to snip off all leaves within 1/8" - 1/4" from stems. Do not tear off. This will make for less stress on plant.

    Rick

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks very much Rick!

    Then cutting all the other spots out will be the first thing I will do tomorrow morning.

    I wondered about the dark marks at the end of the roots myself: the roots are not soft in those areas. I'll take a close up picture of it tomorrow.

    As for snipping off the leaves: do you mean within 1/8" to 1/4" from the base of the stems? (Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm totally new to this game.)

    So grateful


  • 10 years ago

    Yes, Connie. Snip leaves, leaving a tinny bit of where it is attached to stem. Just do not want to pull or tear them off. Wear gloves to not get sap all over you.

    Rick

  • 10 years ago

    I'm a newbie here! This information has helped me too. I ordered a plant and it came with dark roots. I'm getting a replacement thanks to this forum.

  • 10 years ago

    Conny. Yes, Follow Rick's advise

  • 10 years ago

    It looks like the whole rootball had been sliced off to fit it in the garden centre pot as all the largest roots seem to end abruptly? Maybe they just cut them all off and didn't let them heal over properly before potting it back up and the rot tracked back upwards into that big root?

    I would pay special attention to the ends of the biggest roots as you have already noticed dark areas there. The advice you have been given is great and I'm sure you will be able to keep the plant going if you follow what's been said.

    Folks on here care about their plants and are very helpful. Please keep, us up to speed with the progress of your plant....I hope all goes well for it ;-)

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Gill. You are right, the dark ends on the roots are healed wounds from rot or cuts to make the plant fit. Maybe the pot didn't have drain holes too.

  • 10 years ago

    First of all to Gill, Rick and Stuart: thank you for replying so quick to my questions. It is so wonderful to be in contact with knowledgable people who also understand this inexplicable adenium addiction.

    The plastic pot I bought the plant in did have drain holes. Clearly a case of a grower just trying to make a quick buck without caring about the product itself too much. In another tread on this forum someone referred to adeniums from the Netherlands as the crap growers' product from the Netherlands (or something similar). He or she must have had the same experience.

    Anyway, things never seem to go the way one had planned. I didn't get round to carry on the operations based on the advice above first thing this morning, as I had our weekly shopping to do which also gave me the opportunity to buy another pot for this adenium more suitable to its new size and shape. I should have held back...

    You were right about the dark end at the bottom of the roots.... Not all as bad, but nevertheless something that couldn't have been neglected. One of the tiny darker spots (not shown in a separate picture yesterday) on the side of one of the big roots turned out to hide a completely hollow root....

    Here are the results after today's operation. I'm afraid there's not much left of the caudex, and I wonder whether or not the plant will recover in a nice way. On the other side it only cost EUR 7 so for that price it may have been a good object for practice.




    Now, a few more questions. When you say I'm gonna have to let it hang for a few weeks, do you actually mean "hang it up" with string or something, or is it okay to lay it on its side on a big plate (indoors, in the shade)?

    And a few weeks, with alll the big cutting I've done, would you say 10-14 days?

    Tomorrow I will go out and hunt for yet another smaller new home pot for it. Any maybe I'll treat myself to another one of these (saw a nice one yesterday but convinced myself I didn't need a second one - but that was then...).

  • 10 years ago

    Just to let you know that I repotted the plant earlier this week.

    It has started to shed its leaves, but the flowers seem to be adamant they will bloom first (standard white and pink).

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Rick. I actually repotted a few days ago, making sure the cut parts were callussed and dry. I haven't watered it yet.

    Although it's flowering now the leaves are yellowing. Will have to see where it goes this year, but I don't expext to see it properly recovered until next year.

  • 10 years ago

    You are now a tree surgeon :-) I can't believe how hardy these guys are. I think once the cut callus over it will look fine. Loosing some leaves thru this is understandable. Let us see pics if the flowers come to full bloom.

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Conny. Did your plant survive and did you get flowers? bye Dianne

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Dianne.

    The plant is still there, but other than 2 or 3 developing leaves has shown no signs of growth. It almost looks dormant, which is fine with me so it can heal. Next year I plan to get a nice rock to place it against so the ugly side doesn't show.

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