The top one is a black berry,don't know what the bottom is

The bottom one is elderberry

Thanks everyone. I was going to buy both. now I can take some cuttings for free!

If you can find a root sprout from the elderberry, get that. They root more easily and grow faster. Get as much root with it as you can.

Elder also will grow from the seeds - & the berries contain lots of seeds! I had masses of seedlings come up in pots that were underneath the canopy of one in my yard.

Blackberries will grow from a healthy section of the roots. I would cut back the canes to minimize injury from the thorns & dig up a chunk of the underground stems to propagate. More than one will hedge your bet. Blackberries only fruit once on their canes, so cutting back old canes is OK.

Thanks guys for your tips. I have heard that anytime I could take root cuttings without any trouble since both do not go dormant here in Florida. Have you heard the same?

I don't know about that. Elderberry goes dormant here in 9a, and so do the blackberries.

The leaves of that blackberry and different from my dewberry, so hopefully it's not the same habit as mine... Dewberry is a native US plant but it grows like ground cover and is totally invasive in the wooded area near the lake behind my house. Not cool when I'm trying to walk to the dock and I get scratched all around my ankles from the wicked thorns! I thought they were weeds at first so I put on my gloves and pulled out A BUNCH when I first moved in and they all grew back in a couple months. I learned my dewberry will only bear fruit on 1-2 yr old canes and needs sun. Those fruits down below are too red and will turn black when ready to eat. You got to beat the birds, squirrels and bugs to them though! Very sweet and tasty, but small.

I don't know much about see berries....I will research them. on further consideration, I am going to leave the blackberry or dewberry where it is and forage it in the wild rather then transplant it into my garden.