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Post repotting droop?

10 years ago

I repotted all my violets today in newly mixed soil. The only one that looks particularly pleased with its new situation is my Lucky Number. The rest all have droopy leaves- exactly the same droop the Trinidad had: no loss in color, just limp leaves.

Im a worry wart so... Is this normal? I've never had this happen before. 50% miracle gro AV soil, 50% perlite, and a bit of vermiculite. Nothing but spring water.

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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I always wet the soil a bit while mixing it because otherwise perlite dust gets everywhere lol. So it was damp. Could still be water overload

    i just now wondered if it was maybe because of the heat. it was kinda hot outside today, so I dunno if it got hot in my room even with the ac on. I wasn't home.

    Oh and that pot is entirely glazed. It was the outer pot to a self watering set that we drilled a hole in so I could use it for planting directly into.

  • 10 years ago

    I tried watering the worst ones last night and nothing changed so I placed them on paper towels to try drying them out a bit. I won't be able to do much of anything for another few hours until I'm home from work.

    how do you guys get your Violet's potted without packing the soil in? I saw another question that had the same droop, and one of the suggestions was that they packed the soil in. I always pack the soil in a bit so they'll stand up but maybe I packed a bit too hard?? I'm trying to think of other possibilities..

  • 10 years ago

    How bare do you strip the roots when you repot ?

    Against the advice of some other growers, I usually only adjust the rootball to the extent necessary to get the plant into a new pot. Typically, I just take the attached soil and just place it into the new (typically larger) pot.

    But again, you should theoretically be able to start those crowns with NO ROOTS, though that would entail a period of limpness due to the roots having to regrow to provide the plant with water.

    I predict that your violets will perk up shortly, as any root compromise from the repot is repaired/replaced. It might be a few weeks ... and you might lose a few of the outermost leaves ...

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  • 10 years ago

    The only one who's roots I disturbed a lot was the Trinidad, in an attempt to get it free of the old, soft water/chloramine tainted soil. I rinsed the roots with spring water and then patted them dry. I didn't break anything major off. The rest I just kinda fluffed a bit and then repotted. None lost any major amount of roots (one of them fought me a bit and lost a chunk of roots but was fine otherwise).

    I think I'll keep an eye on them today and if they don't get better I'll loosen the soil a bit. Would it be worth bagging them for a bit? Or would that make the problem worse?


  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I've never done bagging. I'll let other growers possibly speak to that. I do think think that your plants will be fine in time. I don't think that I would bother the soil at this point. Just be patient. Be a little stingy with the water (and use no fertilizer) on these plants for awhile.

    WAIT ... (at least a few weeks) for them to perk up ...

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  • 10 years ago

    Artsy! I think I figured it out! Your last post said "I didn't break anything off"!!!! Ok if you rinsed the soil off the roots, you did indeed lose some. Maybe not many but non the less you lost some fine feeder roots. Any time you mess with roots during transplanting it has been my experience that you should remove the lower row of leaves to compensate.

    Now,,,according to your pix,,,your top leaves look fine. It is the bottom 1 or 2 rows that look droopy. I would take them off. If it leaves too much bare stem then repot it again. Use a light mix, don't pack. As you backfill, hold the pot and the plant and just lightly tap the bottom of the pot on the table. THAT motion will settle the soil. Add more and repeat the tapping. I never pack. I tap the pot. For any plant, not just violets.

    As far as the glazed pot, that is no issue. As long as you drilled a hole for drainage it will serve well. And I would NOT water your repotted plant for a day or so, maybe more. Especially if your soil is already wet.

    As far as "watering" the perlite, I don't, only because the soil is damp enough to "water" it for me. I just go slow, add a little to the soil, stir, add more and I am done. No dust.

    Also, I tend to let a plant get to a barely damp state before I transplant and when done I water sparingly. And then I put them back on their wick. Or if it is a new plant, I still put it on the wick and the wick will water it the rest of the way for me. Good luck! Any questions? Feel free to ask!!! Rosie

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  • 10 years ago

    It is not Lucky Number. At least it is not Rob's Lucky Number - it should be mini leaf chimera, what you have is semi-mini mosaic variegation. Looks like one of George McDonald's .

    Remove the drooping leaves - it is a good time to do it when you repot - if you look at their leaf stalks - they are getting pale - they are old - and should go. It should be done every time you repot - you always disturb the roots - and carrying tired pale leaves - just adds to the stress.

    To reduce the transplanting shock - you can put the AV under the dome for a week - which is the best - or give it a spray every so often - distilled water doesn't leave spots - but tap water works too.

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  • 10 years ago

    The one in the picture? No, I know. That's a Mac's Coral Carillion. I do have a Rob's Lucky number. I didn't put a picture of the RLN because its the only one not showing droopy leaves following the repot. I just put the coral carillion because it looked the worst of all of them but all the rest showed the same symptoms.

    The leaves that are droopy here weren't droopy before repotting, so I'm afraid to take them off for fear that they may still be fine. I think I'll keep an eye on them for a bit longer and if some leaves recover but not others, then I'll start taking off the ones that didn't recover.

    I'll keep that tip in mind about tapping the pots, though! I always felt like I packed them in too much but otherwise they wiggle all over the place. Tapping the pot seems like a great way to get the soil to settle without being too loose. If they still don't look good after a couple days, or get worse, I'll try putting them under a dome or baggie and see if that helps. I think the initial suggestion to let them be for a little while is a good one; I worry so I'm not super patient all the time. And I've found with AVs, you gotta be patient :P

    Thanks for all the help everyone; I always appreciate it :) I'll update if anything changes.

  • 10 years ago

    Great! Good Luck!!! Rosie

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  • 10 years ago

    Coral Carillion...blah!

    Remove at least very lower leaves - they are wilting anyway and they are yellowish - so they do not produce that well. You do not need to keep each leaf for 5 years! You chip an old leaf - you give the plant a shot of a growth hormone.

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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Gotcha! I'll have to start grooming the pale leaves off then.

    Well the coral corillion perked back up. The others are still droopy. Dunno why she's happy and not the others but they're on the road to recovery, it seems!

  • 10 years ago

    Update: the coral Carillion is back to normal! One is showing signs of sunburn so I must've left it too close to the window while repotting. My chimera gave up all its bottom tier leaves but the top leaves seem fine. The four optimara are still droopy but most of the leaves and stems still look ok, so I only took the shriveled ones they gave up easily.

    Thanks for the support guys :) I appreciate it. Hopefully all the plants will make it!

  • 10 years ago

    Of course they will!

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  • 10 years ago

    I agree with Irina! Just be patient. Things will be ok! Rosie

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