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White/yellow flowers....result!

My second seed grown plant is now pushing out some more flowers, one of which still has that split between the petals down into the tube that the first one showed. I'm truly amazed that this plant is this colour, I have no idea which seeds it could have come from as I bought Star of Luck and Noble Concubine thinking at the time that's what I would get. I now know better! As the sun returned and as yet it hasn't rained today, so far, I took it outside for a bit of a photo shoot.....it looks a bit lost here doesn't it, lol!

plenty of flower clusters despite some tiny ones browning amongst the sepals, I'm sure there will be more that reach full flowering mode...

this is the caudex detail, I've not done anything to it other than raise it up on a few repottings. I don't lift it any more as it tends to be a bit unstable till it gets itself established again, enough is enough I think in this case.

and now....I know what these are, but do immature pods really show as much as this when they've not been pollinated? I find it hard to believe my plant has been pollinated as its indoors and the flower from this calyx was the only one in flower at that time. I'll keep a close watch on this and see what progresses, but I don't hold out much luck....what do you think or is this just more wishful thinking on my part?

Thanks for looking in.

Gill

Comments (32)

  • 10 years ago

    So wonderful and exciting to see it bloom. The color in throat glows a yellow/chartreuse. Really like the shape of plant.

    Everything looks so meticulous.

    Rick


    greenclaws UK, Zone 8a thanked rcharles_gw (Canada)
  • 10 years ago

    Gill, this is definitely your year. Congratulations!

    Pagan

    greenclaws UK, Zone 8a thanked User
  • 10 years ago

    Ferry nice !

    greenclaws UK, Zone 8a thanked Dennis The Netherlands (8b)
  • 10 years ago

    Nice shape, caudex and Flowers too Does look like you will have many more blooms.

    Hmm self pollination ?

    greenclaws UK, Zone 8a thanked Marica 7 high Sierra's Ca 4,000ft
  • 10 years ago

    Marica, I am curious too, but want to find out if the ovaries on an unpollinated plant, which I think mine definitely is, would be visible like this, does anyone know? They didn't show on the flowers of the pink one. I've obviously got no knowledge of Adenium seed pod formation but having checked them this morning, they're still there, not dropped off or gone brown.....as yet.

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Congratulations Gill, your patience with the plants has finally borne beautiful results. Lovely blooms.

    greenclaws UK, Zone 8a thanked Sinha
  • 10 years ago

    that's beautiful.. and your property is beautiful as well...

    greenclaws UK, Zone 8a thanked spacecoast_fl_zone_9
  • 10 years ago

    Gill, what a treat? Your plant is looking BEAUTIFUL. The color is rare indeed.

    The root is so cute and it looks so healthy.

    I love it. I am sure it makes your very happy, and continue to make you smile.

    With all your hard work.

    Marie

    greenclaws UK, Zone 8a thanked Marie Tran
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks to all those who replied above and for the comments made!

    My plants have all done so much better this year thanks to me using the Chempac8 I was recommended. These plants have been to the brink of death, and back again......remember 'the unmentionable incident?' Lol!

    @Marica, regarding the self pollination question I posed above. Have just read Jedoba/Jerrys recent post...'my first seed pods' and then looked at the informative link Dragonstone posted by David Clulow, it is a very interesting read. Seems like it is indeed a case of wishful thinking on my part....but the two little baby 'pods' are still hanging on in there? Very odd, so I'll tell you all when they drop off!

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Nice Flowers, some still unopened, wondering what it will look like in full bloom.

  • 10 years ago

    Gill, congratulations! IMHO, growing such an adenium yourself, so compact and even to flowering-size up here in the northern hemisphere (at latitudes 52-54°N?) is certainly one of the biggest achievements of this forum so far. This makes your small trees quite special. Take good care of them!

    I myself find no satisfaction in buying adeniums nor any other plant as I once did. I do not collect anymore. It is all about sowing and watching the seedlings grow. ;-)

  • 10 years ago

    Great interesting plant.


  • 10 years ago

    Beautiful flowers :)

    I wish mine would flower...will just have to be patient !

  • 10 years ago

    Dragon, I hope your plants bloom for you soon. Whenever they do, please share with us.

    Marie

  • 10 years ago
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    Patience Dragon, patience! Mine took six years to form the first buds which dropped off before opening, same happened in year seven, then... In year eight they got to this stage you see above, during that time my hair changed from blonde into 50 shades of grey ;-/

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Wow, that's amazing!


    Are the green nubs in your last picture doing anything since?

  • 10 years ago

    Not that you would notice, but they're still there.

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Update on the 'seed pod'....it slowly browned and fell off! I thought that would happen as the chance of pollination was zero given the fact it was the only bloom open at the time.

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    That's a shame Gill.

  • 10 years ago
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    Don't worry, Gill, it will happen. I have personally not seen anyone going at my adeniums until recently. I did get a pod once, and it produced two fantastic but empty seeds lol A few days ago, I spotted a carpenter bee trying in vain to get into a Superstar bloom---it would not fit! Whatever moth or butterfly naturally pollinates these plants, they are not around here.

    In any case, this is what to spot for:

    If it is a fruit, the sepal would spread out and open early and you can see a red dot in the middle. The one in the picture was about half a centimeter long, about three weeks after I spotted the red, swollen dot.

    At some point, I'll try hand-pollination but it's just too much trouble right now.

    Pagan

  • 10 years ago

    Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that, Gill. :\


    Yeah, I haven't seen anything going after my flowers either which is why I resorted to doing it myself. Though the image of a carpenter bee trying to fit in one is kind of funny. We sure do have a ton of those around here but they didn't seem to care about the flowers.

  • 10 years ago

    Not Familiar with carpenter bees thankfully but instead am plagued with leaf cutter bees who are stuffing the roof beams in my g/h with rolled up leaves nibbled off my prized rose bushes which they fashion into tubes and poke them into the holes they've bored! Next are the swarm of wasps which stripped the sky blue paint from my pergola to make a lovely pale blue papier-mache house the size of a football glued to one if my redcurrant bushes :-/

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Add stupid bumble bee's that are bad at flying because they are so big and I have the same with the wasps. Had to wait till dark with a can of long distance spray and a flash light, then knock their home down. No Fun? My carpenter bees bite and are triangle shape and small.

  • 10 years ago

    Gill, your plant is lovely! I am jealous. I have five more years to wait for mine to get that big, I guess.

  • 10 years ago

    I can imagine you stalking the wasps in the dark, Marica lol But those small carpenter bees that are often green and kind of look like flies are fantastic fruit tree pollinators.

    I've decided to erect an old 2x10 so these folks can move there instead of the pergola I am working on.

    That is a huge nest, Gill. Do you still have it?

  • 10 years ago
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    Our carpenter bees make their home in the ground. In the fall they get crazy when they mate. I have only been bit once. I never thought of them pollinating. They do buzz the flowers a lot

    Mostly I use a hose or pole to knock down the beach ball size paper nest and RUN. They can live somewhere other then on my house

  • 10 years ago

    Very beautiful seedling, congrats on your successful blooming of a spectacular color. So pleased to see this as you have waited for some time Gill. Hugs and high fives.

    Tracy

  • 10 years ago

    Can't decide if I like your views more or the adenium!


    Kirk

  • 10 years ago

    This flower is white I think with a yellow throat, rather than a yellow flower. The alba gene masks whatever other colors would have been expressed but other genes control expression in the throat of most tubular flowers.

    If you self this one, you will very likely throw some that may look more like what you originally ordered with color. That said, if you order seeds from a white flower hybrid, it can throw big surprises when some of the seedlings show up without the alba gene. The white could be masking anything.

  • 10 years ago

    Oh. I just assumed (without bothering with research) it's gene suppression that kind of blanches the default pink. It's closer to painting it over, then?

    I have so many other questions. Sorry Gill! I'll ask in another thread.

    Pagan

  • 10 years ago
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    Alba is like an on/off switch for flower color expression. The other genes will still be there for the original pattern and color. There's also a gene that dilutes colors. This tends to be generally true for most flowers but there are variances to specific species groups. Different fantasy expressions in say phalaenopsis orchids is about the same as it is in African violets, for example.