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Help! Indoor Chilli - Leaf problems

10 years ago

Hi, I have been keeping chilli plants inside since May this year. I'm a very inexperienced gardener but so far I've been pretty lucky.

One of the 4 plants which sprouted has been having some trouble lately, and from reading about it, I'm not sure if it is over watering or something more sinister!

It's quite stunted compared to the other three plants and is the smallest of the bunch, and some of the leaves have some distortion and discoloured. Also I noticed that it dropped a couple of leaves today.

It also has some little leaves and shoots near the bottom of the plant, which also seem to be stunted and some of the tiny leaves are effected in the same way as the larger ones.

It's possible that heat and light are an issue, since I live in Ireland and I no longer have a heat mat under the plants. We've been getting some mixed weather. I have a wicking, bottom watering set up through the pots, and the other plants seem to have thrived with it.

I've taken a few photos, sorry for the low light smartphone photos.

Comments (19)

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for your reply habjolokia.

    Just after I signed up and posted this, I started looking through some previous threads. This seems like a really great forum, and there's some really nice plants and really interesting threads. It kept me up past my bedtime.

    They've only been indoors, they've been in that south-west facing window for the last couple of months. Before that they were in a different window.

    That wilted leaf was the second level up of leaves I think, so quite low. Also it is possible that it was lying on the soil for longer than I thought, because I was out of the house for a couple of days. Maybe it wilted after it was off the plant?

  • 10 years ago

    I think it looks fine as well. Leaves fall off for lots of reasons I wouldn't worry.

    Daniel thanked hobbyartisan (Saskatoon, SK Canada, 2b)
  • 10 years ago

    OK, Thanks.

    I'm thinking now it might be Bhut Jolokia. I had thought that those seeds didn't germinate and that it was Aji Limon like the one next to it. That could be why it looks so different. Exciting.

    Here it is compared to the Aji Limon. Totally different I guess. I should have realised! I just thought it was sick.

    bhut jolokia?

    aji limon (according to the shop)

    close up bhut jolokia?

    close up aji limon

  • 10 years ago

    Your plants are looking good overall!

    I don't want to presume on anything, but is there a reason they have to be indoors? They would do even better outside if you can do it, after a period of hardening of course.

    Daniel thanked isgen
  • 10 years ago

    No worries. It's my first time growing them so I'm a bit protective of them, and I'm pampering them inside.

    We've been getting cold nights, and even some cold days with a fair bit of rainfall. I think in Fahrenheit it's been in the 50s at night, and in the 60s during the day. That's been the maximum, and it's not likely to get much better this year. It's been mostly cloudy.

    There's also a lot of little red mites out in the garden - on the wall and on the stone generally. They're enthusiastic little things, and if something is left down out in the garden they'll be on it in no time. I'm not sure if they are red spider mites or phytoseiulus, which I read are actually helpful.

    Mainly though it's the climate. Maybe someday I'll have a nice vented greenhouse, but until then I'd be wary of trying to grow chillies outdoors here.

  • 10 years ago

    Glad to hear they're looking alright though!

  • 10 years ago

    Where are you? I don't think it gets much nastier than my zone lol and my peppers have been outside since April.

    The red mites are harmless if it's the fuzzy ones I am thinking of. They aren't the same as spider mites which are very bad and are not really visible to the naked eye.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Looks like you're having some pretty rough weather. Is that standard for your area or it's just a bad year? If it ever hardly gets better, than a greenhouse or tunnel would be good in the future.

    I think I have some of these predatory mites on my plants, but I never knew they were beneficial, good to know! I'm lucky so far this year and have few if no pest on my peppers. I was killing the odd aphid a few weeks back, but haven't seen one in a while.

  • 10 years ago

    Those are some very healthy looking plants alright hobbyartisan! Are the wooden pallets to protect against pests?

    The weather here has been standard enough really. I'm in Dublin (Ireland).

    I wouldn't say it's rough weather, but it's certainly not tropical anything close!

    I'd be worried about very heavy rainfall, and temperatures getting below 50 fahrenheit at night time. I'm away from home a lot so I couldn't be guaranteed to be able to take them in out of the weather.

    Would love to get a greenhouse. Some day. In the meantime I guess this sunny window will do!

    If I get a chance I will get a photo of those red mites.

    I think I met someone over here from Saskatoon a little while ago.

  • 10 years ago

    When did you germinate those plants hobbyartisan?

    I germinated mine a little too late I think - in early May.

  • 10 years ago

    Small world right, us S'tooners get around lol.

    I started about half of these in early Feb inside, the chinense varieties that take forever to grow. Then I did a second round of shorter season peppers in mid late March. So they vary a bit. I would say May is pretty late for your climate, also I would be surprised if that was a bhut jolokia as they take a very long time to grow as well. Sorry to disappoint you, I could be wrong. I found bhuts to be very slow growing. Maybe someone else can comment on that.

    I use the pallets just to get the pots on more even ground and keep them out of the grass growing underneath. Trying to keep weed seeds from getting into the pots.

    They look great though good job!

  • 9 years ago

    Thought I'd continue my previous thread because I'm having a similar issue to last year.

    Germinated 3 new plants this season. I lost one of last years by over-pruning it at the end of the season, but the rest of the plants are doing very well so I'm up to 6 plants now including the new ones.

    Two of the new plants are cayenne, and I can't remember what the other one is — could be orange habanero.

    The two cayenne plants are exhibiting some strange leaf deformation. I can't see any pests anywhere, and none of the other plants are effected. I'm starting to think it's either sun damage, or something to do with the soil I'm using.

    They're growing up quite fast, but nearly all the leaves are stunted.

    Here's a few photos. I think the plant will be OK (I hope!) but I have no idea what this is so if anybody can shed some light I'd be grateful!

  • 9 years ago

    Looks like I found the culprits. Tiny brown/white little insects which I'm guessing are aphids.

    There are only a few on the plant that I can see, although maybe there could be more in the soil.

    Couldn't get a photo of them because they're so tiny

  • 9 years ago

    It could partly be aphids, but I would be more worried about the pot size it's in and the soil looks a bit odd, it looks like clay and some rocks? Roots need to breathe so some perlite and new potting mix might do that plant well.

  • 9 years ago

    Mmm, I've been planning on re-potting them in a week or so. Have my hands full right now.

    The soil is exactly that alright. Some playsand, potting soil, and baked clay pepples I hoped would aerate the soil. Thanks for the advice, I must get some perlite.

  • 9 years ago

    Sand in a pot mixed with some potting soil is heavy and causes compaction of the soil, especially in a container and will compact around the baked clay. When you repot I recommend leaving out the sand and use potting soil and additional perlite. Keep us updated.

  • 9 years ago

    Will do. Thanks for the advice!

    :)

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Update:

    Took quite a while to get both the time and the money to re-pot these, but I finally did it last night.

    Last season I had my chillies in self watering pots, and I've upgraded that system with these — to include a larger reservoir.

    The new reservoirs comfortably take 20 litres of water and nutrients, which should buy me an extra few days of negligence between watering them.

    Here's the wicking system:

    The new plants have definitely suffered from being left in the small pots for too long.

    The larger plant needed to be re-potted even more urgently. Until yesterday, it was in the same size pot as these small ones are now. Here's the larger one, it's a bhut jolokia:

    Ideally I'd give them all larger pots and more space, but I think I'm testing the patience of my housemates already. Outside there's not a lot of space either, the conditions aren't great, and the kids next door have an incredible amount of sports accessories which come flying over the garden wall on a very regular basis, with occasionally destructive results.

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