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Regular Hahnii or ?

10 years ago

I have this little bitty plant and it doesn't look like the dark green Hahnii I have do I wondered if it was something else. Anyone?

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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Maybe a "Silver Hahnii" ???


    vitorama thanked Mary978
  • 10 years ago

    My guess too.

    vitorama thanked Katrina
  • 10 years ago

    Yeah, I have the same one but with cream colored borders; it's a "Hahnii Silver Marginated"

    vitorama thanked Mary978
  • 10 years ago

    Yes, it is Hahnii Silver for sure. I have also Hahnii Silver Marginata. Beautiful, one of my favorites...

    vitorama thanked Liberyx (Poland 7a)
  • 10 years ago

    I've never seen that either, Liberyx. Could you post a picture?

  • 10 years ago

    "Hahnii Silver Marginated"

    vitorama thanked Mary978
  • 10 years ago

    Well, I purchased it online with some crazy name I knew wasn't valid from one of the worst nurseries I've ever dealt with. It's a miracle it ever lived. Thanks everyone for the IDs.

  • 10 years ago

    Mary,

    Nice plant but what is that mix? It looks very peaty & powdery-dusty from here? Strange!

    Lena

  • 10 years ago

    Lena, it looks like peat moss or maybe Miracle-Gro with a lot of perlite in it. The tan granules appear to be Osmocote or a similar constant-feed fertilizer. The mix is an okay combination for sans if you watch the watering, but it's fine for Hahnii types that aren't highly variegated since they're more tropical than most other sans, especially desert-type sans.

    The pot looks like it's clay, so that would counter some of the water-holding ability of the mix.

    Russ

    vitorama thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    Russ is 100% correct. I use 50% MG cactus mix and 50% perlite and it has Osmocote on top.

  • 10 years ago

    lmontestella:

    if you're referring to my pic in the comments, I use Hoffman's Organic Cactus and Succulant Mix. I know it's not what most of my "Sans" friends on this forum use; from what I've read here, most use a 50/50 cactus mix with perlite. I'm a newbie with Sans and had already potted most of my Sans in this before I joined this forum, but they all seem to be doing great and are growing and have pups coming up, so I won't repot unless I see them declining.

    I'm hoping to do it the right way in the future, haha!

    vitorama thanked Mary978
  • 10 years ago

    I noticed 5 seconds after posting that Lena was talking about Mary's pot of mix, not Lori's. I deleted it immediately, so I can't explain why my post is there now. Anyway, sorry Lena.

    Lori, I wasn't a fan of Osmocote as it's a bit expensive, but I tried it on a lot of different plants including sans last year. I'm noticing now that everything it was in looks really good. I haven't bought any more, but I'm going to ask at my wholesale nursery supply if they have big bags of it that might save me some bucks. I've seen a time-release fert called Dynamite at Home Depot, not sure it's as good as Osmocote or what the diff in price is.

    Russ

    vitorama thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    Mary, I always say to stay with what you're using if you're having success with it, no matter what the mix is. If you do change the mix in some pots, all I'd suggest doing is adding perlite to the cactus mix you've bought. Experiment with how much, up to 50/50.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    Russ, thanks for the great advice!

  • 10 years ago

    Vitorama, I am glad that you asked. Here you are... My two small beauties S.t. Hahni 'Silver marginata', just bought on eBay/Germany. And they were not easy to find. Here on eBay it was the first opportunity for months...

    vitorama thanked Liberyx (Poland 7a)
  • 10 years ago

    vitorama thanked Liberyx (Poland 7a)
  • 10 years ago

    Beautiful plants, Liberyx! Another one on my "want" list now. Do you rely heavily on Germany as a plant resource? Or does Poland have many greenhouses?

  • 10 years ago

    Lena, sorry, I thought you were asking me as well.

    Russ, I love Osmocote. It may be more expensive but you don't need as much and the time release aspect seems to work well. I hope you can find it wholesale!

  • 10 years ago

    I'll let you know if I find it for a good price Lori, I'm also going to try the Dynamite too. What are the numbers on the Osmocote you use? I've been using Miracle-Gro water soluble tomato fertilizer, their all-purpose nitrogen number is 28 and maybe too high for sans. I often mix bone meal in soil mix when I'm repotting.

    Liberyx, have you posted here or on European garden websites to try and find other European sans growers? Also, are you familliar with propagating sans from leaf cuttings?

    Russ


  • 10 years ago

    Vitorama, thank you. And now the simple answer, I am from Poland but I live for several years in Germany. BTW there are also internet sansevieria forums in Poland and in Germany and many enthusiasts there, but I like this forum here particularly. I am here every single day, I read almost all and I have learned a lot. ...so here my thank you to ALL! Great people - great forum! Really Family I would say...

  • 10 years ago


    Russ, thank you for your
    questions.

    Yes, I remember
    your posts to me. Because of lack of place I focus on Hahniis and here the
    choice is limited. Of course I have many other
    Sansevieria species but Hahniis are my favorites.

    To propagating:
    yes, I understand what you mean with “It will propagate
    true from leaf cuttings.” or “leaf cuttings from it will produce Silver Hahnii,
    losing the variegated margins.” As I say, I have
    learned a lot here…



  • 10 years ago

    Russ, you are a good teacher for many of us here, and of course for me too.

  • 10 years ago

    I second that motion!

  • 10 years ago

    Liberyx, I have heard Germany is a hot spot for Sans. I'm surprised you can't find the Hahniis you seek there. Maybe people here are willing to help you out if you pay postage or something.

    And you are absolutely right about this forum. I have gotten to know some of the NICEST, not to mention most generous, people you could ever want to meet here. I'm so glad I re-discovered this forum.

  • 10 years ago

    Liberyx, my question on propagating was if you're familiar with the process, if you have grown plants from leaf cuttings. I was thinking in terms of trying to send you some leaves in the mail. Hahnii leaves aren't thick enough to make a 10-day trip, but any of the heavy, cylindrical leaves will be fine, and possibly some thick-leaved types such Horwood.

    Thank you for the 'teacher' compliment. Passing to others my experience and knowledge, however imperfect it might be, is something I enjoy doing.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    Vitorama,
    maybe I did not seek strong enough. I just watch
    regularly on eBay and see, if there is something like and what the price is...
    But really thank you very much for your tip.

    And
    you're right, if you are looking for something (Sans in Germany), then you can
    also find what you want.



    vitorama thanked Liberyx (Poland 7a)
  • 10 years ago

    Russ,
    my collection has grown pretty in the last time and there is nothing I should
    have immediately. I have to slow down a bit. Thank you very much for your
    suggestion!

    But
    I think your idea great as an interesting experiment, including biological
    aspects, for something like an occasional exchange between America and Europe,
    if needed. We could think about it. I find your thoughts
    about which species would be appropriate for this journey also very
    interesting. And many sans are predestined for such trip by post.

  • 10 years ago

    It has the advantage, that the post of leaf
    cuttings is much cheaper than whole plants.

  • 10 years ago

    That Silver Hahnii is now on my list. I am afraid to buy anything overseas. After I got ripped off from Indonesia. He's now on Ebay. lost over $130 down the drain. Shipping way over priced on Ebay. I hate to purchase anything there unless they send it USPS First Class which is 1/2 the cost of Priority Mail, the most high is Flat Rate.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I love the color!

  • 10 years ago

    Dear Stush please check your email!


  • 10 years ago

    Stush, Flat Rate is cheaper if your box is in the higher weight range. I mailed a box today in a medium Flat Rate box for $13 and change. Had I mailed it in a regular Priority box, it would have cost $16 and change. I mailed a regular Priority Mail box yesterday, and asked what the 1st class postage would be thinking I'd rebox it if a significant difference. The price was the same so I stuck with Priority. Maybe lower weight range, small boxes, is cheaper by 1st class. I mailed a small, light one last week that was cheaper than Priority, and it took only one day more in transit.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    Russ, You are correct. I should have mention that fact. The first boxes I mailed out went Priority mail instead of First Class because it was only 50 cents or less for the difference. Boxes were over 1 lb. closer to 2 lb. so weight does make a big difference. Most my smaller plants send out under 1 lb. So First Class is the cheapest.

    Thanks for pointing that out for me Russ. Also sending Priority Mail or Flat Rate, you can get the boxes free and shipped to your home and picked up at your home for shipping as well. I print out the labels and pay for them on my computer. I can't do First Class. Ebay can but I can't get into them for some reason.

  • 10 years ago

    Actually Stush, you were the one that turned me onto First Class on small boxes when you sent me a plant that way. Since then I've saved a few bucks on small boxes sent First Class rather than Priority, so I thank you for that my friend.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    I believe that plant is S. tri. hahnii 'Cream', and not Silver Marginated. I looked up 'Cream' and also it just a little different than the Silver Marginated I owned.

    Stush

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Stush!

    Did you mean mine or Liberyx's plant?

    Mary :)

  • 10 years ago

    Stush,

    I looked them both up, and all the pics show "Cream" like this:

    And "Silver Marginated" like this:

    Mary :)

  • 10 years ago

    Pictures look the same. I guess it's another new name that confuse us.

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Stush, if you look at the closeup, you can see the difference. The Cream has some of the cream color going down on other areas of some leaves, and not just on the borders like the Silver Marginated, plus the Cream does not have the green banding through out the leaves like the Silver Marginated does. I actually like the Cream better now, I hope I can find one for sale...

    Have a great weekend!

    Mary

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I have no doubt that it's just another made-up name for Silver Hahnii Marginated by a wholesaler, seller or whomever that didn't know the actual official name. I think the difference in lighting when pics were taken can make sans of the same type look different. More or less banding can vary within cultivars, but it's great that you noticed those differences, Mary. Very perceptive.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    I agree with Russ, big difference in plants growing conditions. Even my own in pots that came from the same plants show differences.

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