I'm sorry Jinny! I have never had that happen. I have had a few with leaf miner damage from Harris, but it should not affect the tree much. It did look healthy when you got it. What could have happened?? I'd give Ruth a call.

Mike, Thank you for your response.

I did not leave out any of those steps. I was prepared to pot them up right away, in the shade, in the early part of the day as soon as my order arrived, after I inspected them and took a few pictures. Before I transplanted and took the plant out of its container, I had my soaked gritty mix ready, my bucket of water to soak the soil off the roots, my pot had the gritty soil in the bottom, with lots of drainage holes. After soaking the soil off, it went right in the pot and I gently spread the roots out and put the mix around and under the roots gently adding more soil all around until it reached the top of the roots. I gave it another shower of water a few more minutes until the soil drained out of the bottom. It has been in the shade and watered deeply every morning. All of my plants are taken care of the same way, and all are doing great except for my poor Hirado. It has been declining rather quickly since I potted it up the day I received it..

Ruth is a sweetheart. .

Laura, thanks, I have no clue why it declined so rapidly. I took great care of it. The same care I give all of my trees. That is why I am befuddled by its quick decline. Water is not an issue, gritty mix not an issue.... roots were not exposed for long..they had a good soaking of rain one day.. plus I watered deeply every morning.. it was in the shade.

It had a lot of new growth at the top when I received it. That is where the wilting started.. and it spread over the next days.. :(

The other two citrus I received the same day were treated exactly the same way and they are doing great.

I am waiting for Ruth to call me back...

Jinnylea, did it look OK when it arrived? I am thinking maybe it was damaged by heat during shipping. I feel for you because I know what you are going through. I have been there.

Sorry Jinny that is disappointing! I am sure they will replace it. That looked like really fresh, new green growth on top, perhaps after being in the box it got fried in the heat.

Thank you Vladimir. Sorry you went through it also..It is mindboggling to say the least..All three trees looked good upon arrival despite the heat. I posted a picture above soon as it arrived and still in its pot.

Here is a picture I took today of the Tarocco Blood and Ortanique that I also ordered at the same time and they came shipped together. Look how good they look. All of them are planted in gritty mix, kept in full shade at first, watered deeply every morning, since it has been hot, and had a good soaking of rain one day..

Thank you hobby. I wondered the same thing about all that new growth traveling in the heat.. I also wondered if it had any stress, prior to being shipped in the heat, from being treated for citrus leaf minor etc..??

Jinny, if they were my trees I would water them heavily once a day and then lightly water during the heat of the day, until the top stays moist longer than a few hours..Do NOT let the top dry out until the top stays moist on its own of at least mulch a little.

I've been using these mixes for years and from my assessment, the trees still look they are a bit to dry, asking for moisture, especially the first one towards the front and the one right to the right of it. See how the leaves are a bit curled?

Take your hose and water in the am, and then towards the afternoon or end of day, lightly mist the top of that mix and the leaves..)))The heat is just too much for newly planted trees in that mix even in the shade

If you find that the mix still feels wet just below the surface in the a.m, then lightly mist the top of the mix and the leaves with your sprinkler or hose.

Mike, again, thank you for the advice. I appreciate it very much as it is always so helpful.

I give all of my citrus a good shower and deep soaking with the hose every morning unless it rains. The pictures of the two on the bottom were taken just a half hour after I gave them a very deep soak with the hose. I check the moisture with a dowel later in the late afternoon before deciding to water again.. The smaller pots in gritty mix get watered twice daily..It has been very hot here the last three weeks. We have had some heavy deep rains this past week and a half, which helps keep the leaves nice and green and brings on great growth spurts.

Yes, the Ortanique does has some leaf curl. It had some when it arrived, and no matter how deep or often I water, the majority of the leaves stay curled. I will be sure to water them extra later in the day.. Hopefully, when we get a cool down the leaves will unfurl.. :)

PS: Is it safe to hose the leaves down late in the afternoon, when it is in the mid nineties, even in the shade??

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We had a nice soaking from the rain overnight. Most of the leaves at the bottom half of the Hirado have fallen off, while the shriveled top portion of the new growth are hanging on..If you look at the trunk/stem you can now see a couple tan/dry areas that must have been scraped at some point and have since healed over. Should that be a concern??

I talked to Ruth first thing this morning. She received my message and pictures. She said it looks like it was under stress from being shipped in the heat, and, admitted that it was treated for citrus leaf minor and that could also contribute to the stress. She said it is normal for the trees to wilt and loose leaves under those conditions. I need to keep an eye on it, and, we will go from there. I basically have to wait and see if it pushes out any new growth, and shows signs it will be alright, or see if it just continues on a steady decline and the stem/trunk die off.. Sigh.. I really hope it pulls through. I will continue to keep it in the shade out from under the hot sun and keep it well watered..

I found out it IS definitely a Buntahn.. They marked the tags 'Hirado' because they did not have room for the whole name! So, that is great news.

Mike, I was so engrossed in my conversation with Ruth early this morning, that I completely forgot to pass on your message to her.. Please forgive me! :)

I would ask for a new tree. You would never buy a tree like that if you saw one a nursery

You are right Vladimir. I was hoping Ruth would offer a replacement after sending her the pictures and explaining the situation. She insisted on a "lets wait and see what happens" and if it dies, then we will deal with the situation. I know they work on a case to case basis..

The next morning, after waking up and seeing how much worse the Hirado looked, I sent her another two pictures, the recent ones above, along with a message. I told her that I felt the trees were already stressed before shipment, and that the trees were under more stress being shipped during the heatwave. I did everything right when I received them, and did not feel it was my fault that the tree declined so rapidly. I told her that I would really like another replacement tree. I have not heard back from her yet.. I might not...

When I first placed my order over the phone with Ruth, our temperature was more mild at the time and I thought my order would be shipped that Monday. It actually took me just over a week and a half to get my order and by that time the temperature was soaring in the ninties..

Ruth is a sweet lady.. They have some nice trees and nice varieties for the price, but, if you place an order over the phone, and expect your order will be placed right away, you better have some patience.. I don't get my confirmation emails or return phone calls always as promised... So it is frustrating at times, but, I am sure she has a lot on her plate..

It is quicker to order online, but, not all of the citrus trees are listed online. They have more in their brochure. .. I did mention that to Ruth...

I hope she will send you a new tree. I think in this case, it is warranted. I had an issue a while back with my Dekopon that had an amazingly weak trunk. I called her and she told me to trim it and watch it. As you guys know, it has bounced back remarkably well and now needs no stake.

Yeah I think you should get a new tree, especially since you bought 10 from them! But I am sure she will make it right if it doesn't seem like it will recover.

I almost wonder if a hard prune would help at this point... But maybe it is too stressed. I'm not the pruning expert though!

Hi everyone!! Here is a quick update on my Hirado Buntahn Pummelo. Last week the top half of the stem/trunk started to dry and turn tan. It was looking worse as each day went by. I sent this picture to Ruth @ Harris, along with a message, and, I received a quick response back. She said it did not look good and that they would send another replacement as soon as the heat subsides, which is what I requested. So, I am NOW pleased that they are making everything all right, by me, the customer. I will be happy to place another order with them in the future. I believe in second chances...

Hobby, I actually have 13 trees from Harris, which includes the last shipment I received.

Thank you everyone for your positive responses and help! I sincerely appreciate it!!

I'm glad they did the right thing. Makes me confident that I can order from them again. I had that issue with the trunk of that Dekopon which was very thin, but after cutting it back some, that tree has come back with a vengeance. I do think they have good trees, sometimes they need a little TLC. My baboon lemon and rangpur lime from them are also going crazy. I can't wait to get home so I can see the growth over a week. I am sure it will be amazing. Let us know when you get the next tree Jinny. I hope that one does well for you. You may want to experiment by hacking that other one down to the area that is still green....you never know what will happen...

Thank you, Laura!

Yes, I agree, Harris has some very nice trees for the price.. I have been pleased with most of my orders , but, I have had a few I ordered and received that had weak stems, and, the leaves were wrinkled, puckered, and had clm damage etc.. I would certainly never have picked them out in a nursery to purchase, and, I was surprised they would send them out looking that way.. but, with some tlc, they are coming along well. My Hirado Buntahn is a different story altogether...

My Baboon Lemon had some bad looking leaves when it arrived, but, it has since started growing and pushing out new leaves along the top and the base of the trunk. It is looking good and strong, and, the leaves smell amazing!!

The only other plant I have that is a slow grower is my Xie Shan.. It is finally pushing out just a bit of growth along the trunk. The trunk is thin and weak, but I have a stake supporting it..

I see you are vacation.. I hope you and the family are having a great, relaxing time!

My Four Winds order is arriving next week after being put on hold, and, I can't wait to see the plants! I am so excited!!

If you want to try to salvage the tree, I would cut just below where the brown starts on the trunk. I'd keep it in the shade and put a clear bag over it. Good luck. Van

Jinny, good luck with the tree! I would follow Van's advice and cross your fingers! My xie Shan is also slower, but growing steadily. I also have a FW order. They would have shipped this week, but I asked them to hold off till next week since I'm out. Yes...having a nice vacation! Lots to coordinate...my hardwood floors downstairs were being refinished, so I had lots to arrange...parakeets with my mom, Guinea pigs with a neighbor, my dog with my uncle, and a neighbor watching my chickens...lol

Here is Hirado after I cut him back early this morning! I cut at a slight angle just under the brown stem, and, where the top of the green stem starts. The trunk shows new leaflets emerging, so, that is a good sign it has hope.. It started raining last evening, so, the temperature has cooled off a bit, and, it was raining this morning. A perfect time to cut it back..Hirado will be kept in the shade for a week or so then I will slowly acclimate him to the sun..

I needed the encouragement, so thank you, Van and Laura! :)

Good for you Jinny I am happy for you! That tree definitely needed to be replaced. I think you have a good shot at reviving the cut one... that new growth looks encouraging. Great job!!

Yeah! It will bounce back. I have no doubt. However, you definitely deserve a new tree. You will just end up with two of them!