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Keiki paste

I have successfully been using keiki paste on the nodes of my orchids to encourage new branching and growth of new orchids. Last night I wondered all of a sudden if this would work on adeniums as well (for branching, not growing new babies on existing plants).

Has any of you ever tried?

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  • 9 years ago

    Four days ago was applied and the results

  • 9 years ago

    UL - Did you prune those plants, then let the cuts callous before applying the paste? Or did you apply the paste soon after making cuts?

    Rob

  • 9 years ago
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    Adeniums pruning was done ten days to five days. And the actions of hormones in germination rate is higher in the elderly Adeniums...Pruning was not only used for forming dough cut or scratch on left

  • 9 years ago

    Conny - what happened to the original seedling you put the paste on? Any updates with pics would be great :-)

  • 9 years ago

    I have about 50% success rate with Keiki past, some branches look normal and some weird... and others are not doing anything :( I'm working till wed than going to Vegas, will pull my plants out and take some pictures on Sunday when I get back. Happy Mothers Day to all mothers!

  • 9 years ago

    In a few days the image update

  • 9 years ago

    My experience with using Keiki paste on a mature adenium is a bust. I've tried to take a similar before and after photo for comparison, The left side is before, the right side is after. It's hard to compare because it's in bloom in the after pic and was leafed out in the before pic. I added paste to the main center vertical stem and to the horizontal branch above the yellow circle. Nothing grew. No new branches sprouted. However, the area in the yellow circles, where I did not put any paste it sprouted 8 new branches. It wasn't my intention but it will fill in that blank space nicely. I wonder if the hormone getting into the tissue overall had anything to do with it. I cannot be sure.

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    I also noticed that when a node sprouted it bloomed first, then leafed. It was strange to see flowers coming right out of the wood.

  • 9 years ago

    This one had no nodes sprout or branching. Zero. It's been 7 months since I put paste on both and the paste is still so thick and sticky, there is no mistaking where I put it.

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    Did you damaged the sites where you applied the paste otherwise it might not do anything. Try to take some sharp object and scratch below one node to see if it does anything. For Orchid we apply the paste right after we pull the protective cap off. That site is somewhat damaged. Resulting the plant absorbing the paste as it trying to heal itself.

  • 9 years ago

    I did. I gently pierced the node with some paste on a wooden skewer and then rubbed it in with my finger.

  • 9 years ago

    hi ever one i have been watching this thread with lots of interest it is truly fascinating which i dont know if i have over looked the result but which is the better past and the link if pos i may get some im thinking of grafting to seedlings together using the past to join them together it might yield something even weirder can one you advise me and maybe the link thanks peter

  • 9 years ago

    Check out Hyn's post. She has all kids of seedlings grafted together. 2,3,4 and up to 5 seedlings.

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    What happened to the fingers with which you applied the paste?



    Carol in Jacksonville, FL

  • 9 years ago

    hay shang how do i find that thread and did she use the paste

  • 9 years ago

    Go to the adenium home page and search for Splicing Adenium Seedlings.

  • 9 years ago

    Here's a link for the lazies (like me):


    Splicing Adenium Seedlings

    Carol

  • 9 years ago

    current situation

  • 9 years ago
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    What do you expected when you played with keike paste. That very normal.

  • 9 years ago

    thanks for the link but i got a bit inpatient and found a suppler in australia


    they claim this is the original aust $20.00 + $3.00 p&h i will give it ago.i have a couple of ideas franken twins & two seedlings came out with out leaves it may help them along.

  • 9 years ago

    Halfwaythere, that made me laugh out loud! Thanks for the endorphins!!!

    Carol

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    I haven't used any Keiki paste on my adeniums, no. I have been splicing seedlings, yes. All of them are doing well. I keep meaning to order keiki paste for other applications though with chimera African Violets and my orchids. I used to have some but I misplaced it a long time ago. Been following this thread for a while though. Interesting.

  • 9 years ago

    Hmm, not many positive updates pics from people who used this paste on their plant. I wonder if it's worth it.

  • 9 years ago

    Agartta im going to give it a go prob get mine tomorrow i will post some picks on what im going to do.

  • 9 years ago

    Oh great Peter, good luck, remember wear gloves. Lol

  • 9 years ago

    Here is a before and after photo. Not much action, bit it appeared to make my plant put out some leaves.

  • 9 years ago
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    It should be noted that keiki paste stimulates growth via hormones but it does not cause cells to change into meristem /bud/ tissue. So obviously it isn't going to work how you might expect if you cut /away/ or start with an application to a part that entirely lacks meristem bud tissue in the first place. Luckily such cells can also be scattered in other part of a plant but it is a lot more likely to work if it's applied to actual bud tissue to stimulate it.

  • 9 years ago
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    Honestly, I have no clue what going on with this little one. All the siblings have 6-8 true leaves while it still holding on to the first two leaves. After I applied the paste, the swelling begins and now what appears to be small leaves. Here is the photo of it and the other seedlings all planted as the same time.here is a very close up look. It appeared the new branch broke the skin and come out from the inside.

  • 9 years ago

    It's hard to tell in this photo but it does look like maybe it suffered a little damage and is trying to make new growth. It'll probably be fine.

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    °New update

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    Well this was way too tempting for me and I decided to jump on the bandwagon hehe I just made my own paste and I'll be applying it to some of my little dudes this week end. Very interesting thread!

  • 9 years ago

    Stephane - Good luck!


  • 9 years ago

    First off, this was a graft attempt; that didn't take. Secondly, I can't remember if I applied Keiki Paste or not. In any case; this is what happened.





    Strange.

    Rob

  • 9 years ago

    Any new updates?

  • 9 years ago

    I've had the most success with orchids. I have an orchid that I've gotten a second set of blooms using keiki paste, and a third set starting to grow.

    The jades filled in sort of odd looking and the desert rose stopped growing where I added the paste. No luck with ficus retusa.

  • 8 years ago

    I've got (& have had) some updates for a while, but as usual; I've got to run. I'll try & post them a little later.


    Rob

  • 8 years ago

    That would be great. Thank you!

  • 8 years ago

    This is the first one I experimented with, a Swazicum from seeds I got from Rick (R. Charles). These are all swazicums,, for some reason they seemed to just stop growing








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    More to come...

    Rob












  • 8 years ago

    Wow. Is that from just one application?

  • 8 years ago

    Yup.

    Rob

  • 8 years ago

    I have a seedling growing and hopefully more. Do I apply the paste straght to the point of budding at the tip of the apex? Or do I cut the very tip of the Adenium's bud, and then apply the paste?

  • 8 years ago

    Forest - You can apply the paste at any potential area for natural growth. Apex, branch, bud... Usually, I get multiple points of new growth; from where naturally there'd only be 1 or 2 (as you can see from above pic).

    Sometimes however, it doesn't work at all.

    If I can find some time, I'll try and get some additional new photos.

    Rob

  • 8 years ago

    Would I have to do some type of damage to allow it to soak in? I'm guessing there are much less chances of it being successful if just applied on the outer layer. By the way I am interested in adeniums, I have never had an orchid.

  • 8 years ago

    Yeah, I think we're all pretty much using it on Adeniums; even though it's suggested use is for Orchids.

    And yes, I always apply it to a freshly cut area (after dabbing away the excess sap.).

    Rob

  • 8 years ago

    Update 7/14 2017 - Here are some pics of the continued growth from previous post.

    (Roger obesum)


    (3 branches in front)

    I accidentally hit the plant w/ my camera in this next one.


    Aaand I knocked it over.


    But, I got the shot.


    I got some close ups between the two larger branches (above & below). There's even a little bit of new growth sprouting out in there.



    Rob