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Have I Lost this Tomato Plant?

10 years ago

This is my Early Girl plant (I purchased from a local greenhouse). The plant grew huge, the plant also produced a decent amount of tomatoes, though for how many branches and leaves, I would have expected more but this is just my second year gardening (though none very large, at most I would say they have been 2" in diameter...is that normal for Early Girl?). I also noticed the bottom of the tomatoes had a bit of rot on them, not always, but about half the time. It was on almost every tomato early in the year and now it happens much less often.


Last weekend it rained really hard and the next day we had a rain shower, so I thought this might have just been burning from the water on the leaves but other plants didnt show a problem. I then thought maybe it was over watered from the rain, but other plants didnt show an effects. I was wondering maybe if it was under watered, because as you can see in the pictures, the top/newer leaves arent yet brown but droop and when I touch them they are limp and have almost no structure or support to them.


Can anyone please help? I am hoping I can somehow save this plant, but if its too far gone, can anyone help me protect against this next year? thank you!






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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Could be a combination of several things. There is clear evidence of nutrient deficiency as well as leaf edge death from either insufficient watering or being rootbound. All depends on if it is in a container or the ground.

    You never want to leave such severely damaged leaves on a plant as it only causes additional stress for it so one always removes such damaged leaves from the plant as they develop. Suggest you start by doing that.

    Has it been sprayed with anything? has it been treated with a fungicide? does it shows signs of any pests? What things have you tried to date to save it? if it had issues with BER early on then there has clearly been some long standing soil moisture problems.

    Dave

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  • 10 years ago

    What is root bound? Does it mean exposed roots at the surface? If so, I did notice that slightly on this plant, I suspect rain may have caused slightly erosion and I added some soil on top of that exposed part.

    I checked the soil a couple days ago and didn't detect much dampness about 2 inches deep so i watered the base is this plant. I haven't tried anything else to date.

    i have been adding some liquid fertilizer prior to noticing this problem for about a month, possibly I was too late to add such nutrients. But this is a new raised bed and I suspected the soil mixture would have offered enough nutrients for the first few months.


    This is plant also had a bunch of aphids on many leaves early in the season Two applications of neem oil helped greatly, but the tomato plant is now so large I have a hard time viewing the leaves near the base where there was originally a problem


    thanks for your help and advice. I will remove the damaged leaves and hope I'm not too late


  • 10 years ago

    If it matters, Dave, this post I made earlier contains some pictures of this same plant. I thought at the time it may have been due to moisture/humidity. But offering it as information to you if it helps paint a better picture of the current problem

    http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/4087807/what-is-on-my-tomato-stems

  • 10 years ago

    Root bound means the plants roots are over-crowded in, contained too tightly, in a container. You hadn't indicated if this plant was in ground or in a container.

    Since it is in a raised bed and given the history of its many problems - stem splitting, adventitious root development, BER, foliage margin death, superficial root development at soil level, etc. then best guess of its primary problem is inconsistent soil moisture levels - extremes ranging from excessively wet to far to dry and then back again to overly wet.

    All of those problems are caused by radically inconsistent soil moisture levels. Whether that is caused by weather, your watering practices, your soil's water retention/drainage issues or a combination of all of them I can't say. But you need to figure out how to stabilize it so that the plant's roots have a stable, consistent level of moisture available to them rather than them having to fight the two extremes all the time.

    You may need to make soil improvements so it drains better after heavy rains, you may need to make soil changes so that it retains water longer, you may need to radically change your method and frequency of providing water in both frequency and amounts, you may need to mulch and mulch heavily, etc. I can't say. But it requires monitoring of the soil moisture level several times a day until you can get a handle on it.

    If you water the plants and 12 hours later the soil 4-5" deep is dry then either they didn't get enough or the soil has retention problems. If you water and 2 days later the soil at 4-6" deep is still too wet then either you give them too much or the soil drains poorly. If it rains use a rain gauge and then check the soil 4-6" down to see how wet it is. In most cases rain alone does not provide enough water to plant roots because it is distributed or a wide shallow area. These are just a few of the investigations you need to do.

    But if stems spit it is due to extremes of water, if adventitious roots develop in large numbers it is due to too much water, if soil-level shallow roots develop it is usually due to too frequent shallow watering, etc.

    Dave

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