Oh look, another study that has not yet been through the peer reviewed process:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carey-gillam/fda-finds-monsantos-weed_b_12008680.html

I prefer knowing about what independent respectable scientists are finding as early as possible concerning health issues so that I can utilize that information when using the Precautionary Principle.

lazy gardens, if you do not want to know about this information don't read it. I post information like this for people interested.

kimmq is kimmsr

And I post the countering information to make sure it's "fair and balanced".

We'd already bashed that study around on various vaccine and agriculture forums on Facebook ... what we are seeing is the amalgamation of two groups - the ones that demonize vaccines and those that demonize glyphosate - into one seething mass of science denial.

ADDING: The
ELISA test they used has only been validated for use with milk samples
and cannot be reliably or accurately used for any other sample type.

ELISA needs to be optimized for the particular substances tested and validated. If it is not, then its highly
likely you will get false positives. This is what they did. They used a
test validated only for milk on vaccines...completely different mix of
substances. Its almost guaranteed that these are false positives.

People interested in this kind of nonsense are likely the ones who think that every shadow holds a secret conspiracy. Rational thought is the enemy. Critical thinking is the devil’s tool.

The following was stated: We'd already bashed that study around on various vaccine and agriculture forums on Facebook "

H.Kuska comment: no links to these so called bashings so that the readers can put them into perspective.

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The following was stated: "ADDING: The ELISA test they used has only been validated for use with milk samples and cannot be reliably or accurately used for any other sample type.

ELISA needs to be optimized for the particular substances tested and validated. If it is not, then its highly likely you will get false positives. This is what they did. They used a test validated only for milk on vaccines...completely different mix of substances. Its almost guaranteed that these are false positives."

H.Kuska comment: again, no links to support the above.

Not everyone interested in what I posted above sees a conspiracy around every corner, but many of us know that the Food and Drug Administration, founded as a consumer protection agency, is no longer doing what it was intended to do.

I think that the more information we have the better our ability to make intelligent decisions, but if you only read one side of an argument your ability is compromised.

kimmq is kimmsr

"I think that the more information we have the better our ability to make intelligent decisions..."

Of course, but it needs to be good information.

Blogs from websites whose homepage states that they're at war with glyphosate show bias. Both you and the article lose all credibility and it weakens your argument.

From the Lancet (http://www.gmofreeusa.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2015_03_TheLancetOncology_CarcinogenicityOfTetrachlorvinphosParathionMalathionDiazinonGlyphosate.pdf)

Monsanto Lobbying in 2015

Total Lobbying Expenditures: $4,330,000
Subtotal for Parent Monsanto Co: $4,330,000Monsanto Co Lobbying by IndustryIndustryTotalAgricultural Services/Products$4,330,000

Glyphosate has been detected in
the blood and urine of agricultural
workers, indicating absorption.
Soil microbes degrade glyphosate
to aminomethylphosphoric acid
(AMPA). Blood AMPA detection
after poisonings suggests intestinal
micro bial metabolism in humans.
Glyphosate and glyphosate formulations
induced DNA and chromosomal
damage in mammals, and in human
and animal cells in vitro. One study
reported increases in blood markers of
chromosomal damage (micronuclei) in
residents of several communities after
spraying of glyphosate formulations.16
Bacterial mutagenesis tests were
negative. Glyphosate, glyphosate
formulations, and AMPA induced
oxidative stress in rodents and in
vitro. The Working Group classifi ed
glyphosate as “probably carcinogenic
to humans” (Group 2A).
We declare no competing interests.
Kathryn Z Guyton, Dana Loomis,
Yann Grosse, Fatiha El Ghissassi,
Lamia Benbrahim-Tallaa, Neela Guha,
Chiara Scoccianti, Heidi Mattock,
Kurt Straif, on behalf of the
International Agency for Research on
Cancer Monograph Working Group,
IARC, Lyon, France
International Agency for Research on Cancer, Lyon, France