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Lucky find! Winter Magic!

10 years ago

This is another unnamed little guy, but it is really easy to recognize, the only other one that I think it could be is perhaps Sweet Arlene.

Love the color! A very elegant pastel lavender with bluish-gray undertones; however in sun exposure they fade white soon.

There's a little hint of tan/pastel yellow at the base of the reverse of the petals, I think it's quite complimentary, though I couldn't get a good pic of the effect.

Some people don't really see the "brown" in the russets in my collection, but when I showed them this they agreed there was some gray in the mix.

It is divine, truly. It is very full with foliage, very dark, I've always liked the contrast between light blooms and dark foliage.

And the scent! I think it's my new favorite, truly something.

Another thing I liked was the size ratio of flowers and the plant/leaves, I find that some minis look like their flowers and foliage don't quite match compared in size. But that's just me, probably.

(That pic is just awful blurry, sorry)

I was planning on visiting a nursery other than the one where I got it, but in the end I couldn't. I was bummed and then I found this! Such luck!!!

It's still to be seen how it'll perform, but in looks alone, a 10/10 from me.

Does anyone else have it? I read a few comments saying it has problems with blackspot. That shouldn't be much of a problem here, but I'm just curious.

Comments (13)

  • 10 years ago

    Looks good!

  • 10 years ago

    Very pretty. Did you get it from Burlington Roses?

  • 10 years ago
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    I have grown Winter Magic in my garden for two years now. It is a very nice rose. When fully open, the blooms come just short of 3" across. Does this make it more of a miniflora rather than a true miniature? Does it really matter? The blooms are exquisitely beautiful. The center color intensifies in cool weather as could be expected. It, like almost all miniature roses, is black spot prone, and will defoliate badly if not sprayed. I spray all my roses that need it.

    Sweet Arlene is new to my garden this year. It also is a keeper. The foliage of Sweet Arlene is a little less refined than WM, but its flowers are just as large when fully open. Both SA and Winter Magic have a rich fragrance.

    Another fragrant mini, although its flowers are also just under 3" fully open is Scentsational. Then there's Electric Lady, another fragrant mini I am trialing this year also. It blooms in surprising abundance but has only reached 6" tall this year! Scentsational's fragrance is more powerful than either WM or SA. Electric Lady is still being evaluated for fragrance. The next fragrant mini on my list to try is Lavender Crystal.

    I plant the minis at the front of my rose bed to hide the naked knees of the taller, non-mini roses.

    All these minis I purchased from Burlington Roses. Cafe Ole (not sure of its fragrance level), is due in along with two more Sweet Arlenes at this month's end from Burlington Roses.

  • 10 years ago

    Moses I'm so jealous! Burling was out of Cafe Ole when I put in my order. I believe she did have Winter Magic still in stock and I almost got it... but decided on Green Ice instead.

    Roseacea yours is lovely. It has a real mysterious look. I'm a fan. :)

  • 10 years ago

    Wow! That is lovely!!! I'm so glad for you that you got it!! I love how you can see the lavender in the bud form!! And the lavender in the middle of the opening bloom - wow!!!

    Carol

  • 10 years ago

    Cori I love my green ice, and I'm sure you will too. I'm not sure why but my winter magic, which I got from Burlington too, is such a slow grower, I'm afraid it may die. It hasn't yet.. I keep it in a pot, to give it more attention. For some reason, I have trouble with some of the minies and such if they are not vigorous, has anyone else had this trouble?

  • 10 years ago

    I had Winter Magic for several years and your rose does look right in both the color and form.

  • 10 years ago
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    Alana, my Winter Magics are quite vigorous. They are miniatures, but really behave like a hybrid tea scaled down, a little open growth in habit, somewhat leggy with long stems (for a mini), with a single bud per lateral stem. Basal shoots usually produce clusters of 4 or so flowers at their ends. The laterals off of these are almost always single blooms at their tips of about 5-7" long, measured from where they emerged from the leaf node to the flower.

    At this summer's end, their second year in my garden, the two I have measure about 12" h. X 14" w. My bushes are not dense or compact but open. This is their natural habit, not a fault. As they mature I believe they will dense up somewhat, but not have the dense growth habit say, of Green Ice or Rainbow's End.

    Black Spot pressure on miniature roses is intense. I believe minis are among the most susceptible roses to this dreaded fungus. I would not even consider growing minis under a no spray rose management system.

  • 10 years ago

    I don't spray, but some are vigorous for me and some are not. I think maybe it's just that some don't like my conditions, weather wise, where some do. I do love the color and flower form, just not the bush. I love Green Ice. I guess, I just love the ones that are more vigorous,for me, in my conditions. My conditions and yours are so different.

  • 10 years ago

    Moses, why would you say that is? the predisposition to blackspot in minis? Is it because the leaves are closer together and thus humidity lingers for longer or do you think it's genetic? I haven't noticed them being more or less susceptible than other roses. But my conditions are not so good for blackspot, it rarely does any serious damage. Though I recall a yellow mini being completely bare because of it in my dry summer, nonetheless. Maybe I haven't been paying much attention.

  • 10 years ago

    I garden in the proverbial 'Black Spot Alley.' A mini here will completely defoliate very quickly if not sprayed. It could be genetic, proximity to the ground, or another novel possibility, or a combined action of them all.

    The novel idea I came up with is that the black spot fungus has a typical maximum size per individual spot. When we see larger and smaller spots on a leaf it appears to me that the larger ones are spots that have grown into each other because of their close proximity when they started out as baby spots.

    Whether the black spot is on the leaf of a large leafed rose such as some hybrid teas possess, or on the tiny leaf of a miniature rose the initial fungus spot is the same size. As the black spots grow on a smaller leaf, the leaf succumbs to them much faster than a larger leaf simply because of the smaller leaf's size, and its quickly used up 'food,' source for the black spots. That is why mini roses succumb to black spot so quickly. It's only my theory.

    It can be compared to a lion needing 20 rabbits to make a filling meal, each rabbit consumed very quickly, in just about one gulps time each, as compared to the greater length of time the same lion would need to eat a deer of equal weight to the 20 rabbits.

  • 10 years ago

    Moses - I think that sounds like a VERY good theory!



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