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NOID Episcea cupreata

9 years ago

just trying to determine approximately what this is. any ideas?

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  • 9 years ago

    Same situation as with AVs - too many cultivars....

    There are people on Facebook discussing Episcias - some have pretty extensive collection - try to hook up with one of them. It is not Karlyn - the veining is a bit different. Very well grown plant, I would not say it is an extraordinary variety - but pleasant. Seems kinda familiar...

    What can I say - do not bring home NOIDS? Ever?

  • 9 years ago

    But Irina, NOIDs need homes too (lol)...though I know what you're saying, why not buy something that has a name.

  • 9 years ago

    really? :))))...

    but then i can post here and show my pictures of NOID's :)))) - that's unending topic of discussion and fun!

    this is the same plant in April , 1st bloom end of June.

    the pic in the 1st post is from August. i started removing stolons to make it grow bigger leaves and bloom more. it grew gigantic 5" leaves by now :) - i love it!

    and it is developing flower buds continuously, even now.

    i rooted the stolons and planted 3 crowns per tub. i want to do sort of a cascading ball eventually.

    'Karlyn' is almost like mine, except it's more bronze, darker shade of brown.

    this one looks almost like mine. is this a typical picture of it?

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FVaHNwgW8oQ/UkJIV63dT9I/AAAAAAAABvk/o472NAeqB8g/s1600/Kingwood+African+violet+104.JPG

    i found another very similar to mine - Carnack.

    http://www.streptocarpus-info.com/Episcia/tablec.html

    here's a closer look at my leaves - this pot gets better light, so it's more bronze and also there is a silver flush at the very base of the leaf on full grown leaf.



  • 9 years ago

    I like the turquoise blue veining.

    But... you either have a collection - or a hoard. Collection has a system, idea, and yes - names. Hoard - can take everything and the kitchen sink. Building a collection you learn - species, hybrids, origin, botanists, hybridizers...they talk to you - and every plant has a story. You miss it if the only thing you can say is - Oh, yeah - definitely Episcia, kinda pretty...oh yeah, I got a cutting from Mary... or I rescued it from a store...

    Sourpuss

  • 9 years ago

    lets not go to extremes of black or white..either/or...

    i am sort of a collector ...of decorative plants and other objects ;) - grouped for viewing exhibition style :). i live among them ;) with style and i certainly do not miss out, i assure you!

    what matters to me most is the aesthetics. and i am not planning to hoard any time soon, though i do grow close to 100-150 plants in the city apt, rotating them for display and enjoying the view. it does not bother me at all, if i don't know the cultivar name or hybridizer. and i am pretty good with latin names at this point ;).




  • 9 years ago

    smirk-smirk....

    i suppose you're quite tired of answering NOID requests...but, hey...you don't have to answer ALL of them after all.

    perhaps, smbody else will chip in - in a better mood :)))..and show their plants,

    if they are similar to mine. or post a link or two. i'd be delighted to see other variants.

  • 9 years ago

    I am in a bad mood.... spraying is due... picked some bugs - and I have a huge hoard of named gesneriads and AVs, In thousands. Please accept my apologies.

    If you pick them by esthetics, texture, color... you are a designer - and you have your own system.

    I am sure there are over a thousand of named Episcias, not all of them available any more. Your plant looks kinda familiar, so there is a chance somebody will give you suggestions - but probably not on this forum.

    There is a group on Facebook - Episcia's Heaven - over 500 members. You probably find better trained eyes there.

    I.

  • 9 years ago

    thanks, i'll look, though i don't do facebook.

    you see, i like learning by searching for images :)...

    i found 'Alfred Sharpe' - it has this very similar <turquoise> veining..

    http://lyndonlyon.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=9_14

  • 9 years ago

    I went downstairs and looked at Karlyn. And I think this is it. Episcia juvenile leaves look different from mature leaves - and your first pic looks different from the last.

    Now - let me use whatever is left from my common sense. 'Karlyn' is a wonderful old hybrid by Max Dekking from 1975. It survived when a lot of them perished. It is quite common. 'Alfred Sharpe' is also old (1971) - it has 2 versions of descriptions - one that matches LLG has a comment - "leaves stay small" . Not yours.

    Episcia 'Carnack' from streptocarpus-info site is new and you cannot find it anywhere but on this site. Probably ladies who posted it - either hybridizers or friends of hybridizer. So - it is really not in wide culture yet.

    It doesn't mean that your plant is actually Karlyn - but I think at that point I am sure that it is NOT Alfred Sharpe or Carnack.

    Here we go again - it came to your house without a label - you can now label it as "possibly Karlyn" - but you will never know for sure. Regarding trying to identify them visually - is not going to work because Episcias are chameleons. The appearance changes from intensity and quality of light, water, fertilizer, soil mix, time of the year, majority of the Senate... here I got carried away....

    I.



  • 9 years ago

    What I was going to say - if we both take cutting from the same Episcia plant - and you will grow one in your home - and I will grow another in mine... you would never guess they came from the same mama...

  • 9 years ago

    thanks! it's good to know ALL of the above. as i go thru the process of searching all sorts of wonderful things come up - related or not. i just enjoy doing it :).

    and now they'll stick in my mind as somewhat similar and i will actually remember the names. otherwise they just slip - as i look thru lots of plants and cultivars, etc.

    common or not - i find it unusual and my DH adores it (which cannot be said about some other plants....) so it's a keeper - i am stealthily removing stolons, as it is very stoloriferous! great hanging basket plant. very easy when on the wick.

    although you can't hang it then - so it's destined for a stand in the future

  • 9 years ago

    You can have 2 - one hanging one on a stand. They are really attractive.

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