I have plenty of Madrones on my land . The seeds will be ripe around christmas. Are you in Austin area? I am really busy over the christmas season with the State sessions at the capital approaching. I will probably drop the ball, so keep after me.

Are you aware of this site?

Madrone Hub

I have seen that site some of the cultivation ideas I'm not sure I agree with so I'm gonna try a few different things. It mentions biodegradable pots. I'm not a fan at all. I know it let's you transplant easily but it's not a best practice horticultually. My theory for why they are so hard to grow in cultivation has to with drainage. the western species of madrone are known to require perfect drainage. So are related manzanita. some of the seeds I'm going to try in grit and pond baskets. it forces the plant to grow a really good root system (slowly)

I just went out and checked my tree, and for the first time in years there are no fruits. I will check some of the bearing trees out in my gorge. It has been two years of very wet strange weather years. keep your fingers crossed. I have never succeeded getting them to sprout by putting them under Juniper trees up on my hillside. I think I need more duff collected to keep them hydrated. I do get a fair amount of seedlings coming up where I don't plant them. No , you can not dig one up......They die. I have tried three times . No More.

I know they cannot be dug. I wouldnt ever ask. Although i would like to find a property owner west of here that has pinyon pines . Id like to collect a smallish one for a bonsai tree....I'll start another thread. please do let me know if you stumble on any seeds. thanks

Todd

No pinyon pines here. You might try asking on the SW and Arizona forum for seeds. They are fruiting now. It might be a bit late. I was there last year end of October and the roads were full of pinyon nut venders. I stopped the car and my passenger collected some seed and she got them germinated in Turkey.

Pinus remota, more often described as pinus cembroides var remota occurs only in two smallish parts of texas the sw edge of the Edwards plateau (Leakey to rocksprings) and further west in the glass mountains and a couple smaller places in mexico. it is the most heat and humidity tolerant of pinyon pines (which are all very heat tolerant) and is virtually unknown in cultivation. you can find small container plants at native plant nurserys sometimes. like all pinyons terribly slow growing especially first several years, checks badly (doesn't like transplanting) and takes many years to make the large wingless seeds which are really tasty. remota is also called papershell pinyon because the shells are.thin enough to break in your hand generally (if you have strong hands) here are some pics I took years ago in west texas and some pinyon pine pics from my.collection