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Need opinion on tile layout

9 years ago
We have a strange shaped shower that we are in the process of re-tiling. Two of the walls lean out, which makes for some odd angles. Now that the tile is up, there's something unsettling about how they are aligned. Is this a normal layout for larger tiles?

Comments (18)

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    No, this is not normal and it is unsettling. I recommend an offset tile layout here with a grout color similar to the tile color.

    A M thanked CDR Design, LLC
  • 9 years ago
    I did request offset but I'm a new homeowner and new to tiling and I didn't know I needed to give a percentage. I feel terrible. I know the space is weird so I've had an open mind, thinking that maybe I just didn't know, but a friend who came by last night said the lines were making the room feel even more strange than it is. I definitely chose white grout and have thought that would help, but my friend said that white would still turn grey when wet, making the lines visible. Here's a different angle. Thank you for your comments!
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Yeeeah ... don't do white grout. Match the tile as closely as possible to minimize the effect. Since you haven't grouted yet ... there are grouts available that will not stain or mildew, I would use those rather than a cement based grout.

    A M thanked Premier Designs
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I would be surprised if that shower even meets code for size and if you paid a pro to do this they would not get one more penny

    A M thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Agree. Your tile is not white, but more of a diamond-white. A grout with epoxy will be more impervious to staining. Once you add the grout, the lines will not be as obvious.

    In the future, it is best to you photos to describe what you want to contractors.

    A M thanked CDR Design, LLC
  • 9 years ago

    I think a do-over with a smaller subway tile might be your best bet.

    A M thanked shirlpp
  • PRO
    9 years ago
    It is possible to install tile-over-tile. You could veneer that one wall with a second layer of tile.

    I do like the funky angled (battered) wall.
    A M thanked Smith Associates Architects PA
  • 9 years ago

    The walls are slanted. Why? I can't think of any tile layout that would disguise that fact.

    Then couple slanted wall with a tile guy who clearly doesn't have a clue. I could have done a better job and I've never installed a single tile.

  • 9 years ago
    The walls are slanted because the house is an inverted trapezoid, and this shower is located on an exterior corner. The home is 13 years old and is funky, for sure.
  • 9 years ago
    Yikes... That looks like a 5-10% offset. Can't imagine someone not questioning his before setting. It is an odd shaped shower, which probably added to the confusion. Perhaps a single solid surface for the walls using a granite or Quartz fabricator would have worked better. That or a smaller format tile. If you decide not to redo, definitely match the grout as close to the tile as possible. Good luck.
    A M thanked Wendy
  • 9 years ago
    Would it not have been less jarring to design it so the tile starts from the right, slanted wall, with fuller tiles, then working to the left to the straight vertical wall? Obviously, the tile needed to be laid out on the floor in advance to see how best to do it, before attaching to walls.
    I am no expert, but I do not think your installer has helped you much. The minor "overlap" is not helping either. The pros are correct here when they say that communication in advance is always imperative. Let us know how you handle this. Good luck.
    A M thanked sunnydrew
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    A better layout would help a great deal, running the tile vertically would help, along with a different tile on that short wall, but from what can be seen, good quality products were used, (fabric waterproofing, valve seal).

    A M thanked Premier Designs
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    A 33% offset, following the angle of the battered wall would be awesome. The joints would follow the angled wall and make it look like we planned it. Some things are opportunities just waiting to be realized. This may be one of those things. :)

    A M thanked Smith Associates Architects PA
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Based on the lack of communication on executing a atypical offset, tells me that the tiler is either inexperienced and doesn't know what the typical offsets are, or doesn't care and just made it work, to quickly complete the job. This would concern me, because if either is the case, this is probably indicative of other issues underneath. I would ask for proof that he used a waterproof membrane, and if he can't ask for a partial refund and start over.

    A M thanked Steph
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    The proof is in the first picture posted ... its visible.


    Not communicating with contractors leaves it all up to them ... which is fine, if you've picked a good contractor that knows his trade and is conscientious about his work, otherwise you end up with this ... I see it everyday, and people are surprised with the shoddy work they get. Much of that falls on the homeowner. Do your due diligence! See past work, talk to past customers, it's not that difficult, and it's necessary if you want a quality job.

    A M thanked Premier Designs
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I agree with Smith Associates that this is an opportunity waiting to be realized -- it really is a unique house, and believe it or not the original tile was much worse. I also agree with everyone saying that it looks like it was executed by someone inexperienced with patterning. The materials are definitely high quality and the underlying work is meticulous. The contractor is great and honest, but they had to use a sub for the tile work, and yes, they agree that it's not right and we're going to start over. Their sub is a great person, just maybe not right for this kind of job. I see now that it requires someone with more of a designer's eye. At any rate, It will be fixed and I'll keep everyone posted. It was very helpful to hear from everyone that my initial reaction was not the wrong one! And just to clarify, I definitely provided photos before we started, and was shocked when I first saw the result, but when I asked why it was done this way I was told that it was the best layout for the angles, so initially I deferred since I'm not the "professional." The biggest mistake here was not specifying the specific offset, which I honestly did not know to do. I've never seen a tile pattern with less than a 30% offset so I didn't know this was a possibility. Oh well. Live and learn. Thanks everyone!

  • 4 years ago

    Someone who did this have no experience at all doing tile . where did you find this person home depot parking lot.