Hi Jay,

I've had mine flowering after 3 years, no artificial light. Only a very bright south-facing window for the last 1,5 years: http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1721154/blooms-in-the-lair-of-the-klotz-2010

So there is hope. Just thinking of messing around with a Minerva x self. I know I'm going to get all Minerva's but hey Minerva r cool. So u had a seedling u grew from seed germination to bloom on a south window and never put the bulb outside ever?

Going back to my old post, I must have sown them in May 2007. Until mid-summer they were indoors without much direct light. They've had a brief period (3 weeks?) beeing outdoors that summer, but did not gain a lot of biomass. Afterwards I reduced their number from 100 to 20. At that time they had lots of space in their pot. Then I moved into a (sortof) "dorm", where I only had a very dark window - I moved out the next year - in 2008 they recieved their space on the very very sunny window and gained rapidly. In early 2010 they flowered.

They really did take a leap when they were around 1 year old, so that was a crucial time when they moved into their sunny spot ;). I never had as much luck getting bulbs to flower indoors as rapidly. My biggest success jet (I have given up on crossing as heavily as I did because I've completely run out of space) is my "Minerva x white NoID" cross that I've taken as my avatar. You can see more pics in my "Ideabooks"

oh cool carl that cross looks good. I also have a red lion in bloom, I was going to use its pollen on Minerva but since red tends to be dominant I didn't want 90% or more of the seedlings to be red lion when crossed to Minerva lol. I like Minerva, so if I self Minerva chances are ill get all Minerva? If the seedlings don't work because I got no garden, oh well nothing lost. Worth a shot anyways