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Help with mealybugs on baisal keiki

9 years ago

I have an orchid that put out a basal keiki as it was dying last fall. The basal keiki has done really well, it has 2 larger leaves (possibly a 3rd leaf growing from below) and 2 roots (one fat one about 2-3 inches long and a skinnier one about the same length). But I just discovered what appears to be mealybugs on it.

I've attached 2 pictures to show what the plant looks like and the mealybugs.

On closer inspection, I see white stuff around all the leaves and some of the roots so I unpotted the orchid and have thrown out the bark.

I had originally planned to leave the keiki attached as the plant seemed happy and I didn't want to disrupt it, but I'm wondering if it makes sense to just separate it as it will be easier to clean the whole thing and not worry about the bugs lurking around the roots?

I used isopropyl alcohol to clean it because that's all I have at home, but I'm wondering if it makes sense to treat it with Bayer 3 in 1 (which I'll pick up this weekend) once it's been repotted?

I've also cleaned both pots that the orchid sits in and soaked it in some diluted alcohol just to be safe.

I also have 3 small succulents that sat next to it. I'm having a hard time determining if they spread to those plants because of their coloring- is it possible/likely? Should I isolate them and/or spray them with some diluted alcohol just to be safe? Or maybe I should post this on the succulents forum?

Is there anything else I should be doing?

Comments (16)

  • 9 years ago

    Add non degreaser dish soap. Like Ivory to water. around an ounce and a half to a gallon. You will need math for smaller amounts. Or buy safer soap. Most insecticides are contact killers. Meaning you need to get the bug wet. When it dries it does not help. safer soap also kills on contact without poison and cheaper too.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Do you mean to add the dish soap when I water the plant, or to clean the plant before repotting it?

    Thanks!

  • 9 years ago

    Mealies have a life cycle (egg, larvae, adult) that need to be addressed, Treat it thoroughly every week for the next 3 weeks. With a single plant the alcohol should work.

    I personally would separate the keiki from the mother plant to help isolate the bug problem. Discard the mother portion.

    As far as succulents, I grow a couple and they have never had mealie issues?


    Where did the mealies come from? Is it possible they came in on this plant originally? If not, you need to find and fix the source of the mealies or the cycle will keep repeating and stressing the plant(s).


    Good luck,


    Bob

  • 9 years ago

    It looks like they may have spread to one of my succulents- though it was 3 feet away from the orchid, on the same windowsill? I saw something white and fuzzy on it and just attacked it with the alcohol to be safe. I'm worried that the 3 plants in between those 2 may also have a problem but I don't see anything on them right now.

    I don't think they came on the original orchid- I've had it since last summer and this is the first time I've seen them. I repotted the plant last fall in some new orchid bark I bought, but again this is the first time I've seen the bugs.

    I have no idea where they came from. I bought 2 plants (a pothos and a cactus) last weekend, but both of them are in my kitchen and these plants are in my living room (separated by a small dining room with no plants in it).

    I'll see if I can figure out how to separate the keiki. Hope it survives all of this!

  • 9 years ago

    I personally would separate the keiki from the mother plant to help isolate the bug problem. Discard the mother portion.

    Bob-how would separating the keiki from the mother plant isolate the bug problem? Sorry-just curious.

  • 9 years ago

    Dont separate the keiki. It only has two roots. :-( Thats a bad idea

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    In my experience mealies can be pretty difficult to control once they get established, so any way you can gain control the better off you are. That said, I'd remove the mother plant so there are less places for the mealies (eggs, larvae and adults) to hide.

    As far as keikis, I think 2 2"-3" long roots are enough to keep it going when separated, especially if the mother plant has issues.


    Bob

  • 9 years ago

    NUKE IT FROM ORBIT! Mealies are THE WORST!

  • 9 years ago

    I separated the keiki and repotted it in new orchid bark. I didn't want to risk the mealybugs lurking in all the roots of the mother plant. I hated to do it, but I think it made the most sense. This plant has been a fighter, so hopefully it will stay alive!

    Since it looks like it spread to at least one other plant I also bought Bayer rose and flower (they only had the 3 in 1 in a really big concentrated bottle which I didn't want to have to deal with) so I think I'll spray them with that today. I'd rather just hit them hard than risk them spreading to all the plants in our small condo. (and they're all indoor plants so I'm not worried about the bee issue.)

  • 9 years ago

    The can spread fast. They're like magic I think. Come seemingly out of nowhere!

  • 9 years ago

    Also make sure if there are ants in the plant, because ant can speed up their spread. Ants actually save mealybugs from other bug eaters etc to eat honeydew from them. (who would not like some glucose) Once I had mealybugs in my mango tree and clearly saw how ants act. However treated it with neem oil and managed it.


    http://www.tropicalorganicgarden.com/success-with-neem-oil-mealybug-attack-to-mangoes/

  • 9 years ago

    No ants that I could see. The orchid seems to be doing alright for now. The leaves still look good and the aerial root appears to have grown a bit.

    I don't see any mealybugs on it or any of the other plants, but I'll spray them again this weekend to be sure.

    So far so good! Thanks for all the help!

  • 9 years ago

    I used the bayer product and it killed all roots of my orchids, good lot!

  • 9 years ago

    I highly doubt it was the Bayer product. If used as directed.

  • 9 years ago

    Be very careful with the Bayer granules as I lost 30+ orchids a couple of years ago by just putting this on top of my bark mixes as a sort of top dressing, specifically to fight mealies. I may have used a little more than recommended, but I didn't think it was to the point where I would lose over 30 orchids, mostly phals and paphs. They all got completely burnt roots and the ones that did make it had a very hard time re-establishing. I threw out the remainder of the product I was so disgusted...


    Good luck,


    Bob

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