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First Attempt @ Hoya Trellising...

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

Here's my first attempt at Hoya trellis. Hoya Hat Som Paen I got last year absolutely exploded, it's longest vines are in excess of 5 feet! Photo:

Mindorensis Combo Pot: (aurorawa, when I purchased these guys from you I didn't realize how much faster Mind.Pink/Orange [on the right, dark leaves] was going to root and grow vs. the other color varieties. Mind.Red Star [red leaves] is the only other one giving Pink/Orange a run for its money!)

Erythrostemma Combo Pot:

I still have Fusco Marginata, 6 different pots of Pubicalyx varieties, and one massive 30+ year old carnosa to trellis as well. Im only doing the ones that have started to wrap around other plants/walls/curtain rods. Any tips are welcomed, please excuse my sloppy work. I was so afraid of breaking them :0

Comments (33)

  • 9 years ago

    The hardest part is done now! Time to watch them grow!

  • 9 years ago

    I like the mindorensis combo pot! :) Would love to see the pubicalyxes and carnosa, too! As for tips, just be gentle with them as you can so none of the more tender vines or the peduncles break off. Also, don't clip the growing ends downward. That causes the vine to die back to where it starts to grow downward. Other than that, good job and I hope they fill out for you some more this summer!

    Brad AKA Moonwolf

  • 9 years ago

    Tip #1: don't worry about breaking older vines on MOST hoya species. They are pretty tough.

    Tip #2: If you are going for function over fashion, don't worry about how it looks!

    Tip #3: There are three common methods of trellising (poorly illustrated below), but NO WRONG WAY to trellis, aside from making sure new growth tips are pointed either up or sideways:

    That being said....

    Tip #4: some hoyas do best with limited horizontal training (hoops). They just prefer growing as vertically as possible. Lauterbachii and lambii are two I can think of, off the top of my head. For these ones, I lock tie u-hoops together (I could buy taller hoops, but I have a bazillion of this size lying around, so why waste $?):


  • 9 years ago

    As far as your two mindorensis that seem to be growing faster than the others, I noticed that, too! I think they are mindorensis crosses (mindorensis X mindorensis), and if they are, hybrid vigor might explain things!

  • 9 years ago
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    Thank you for those illustrations! I learned from Doug Chamberlain online about keeping the stems up. Do you see increased vigor in a lot of hybrids aurorawa? I wanted and probably will do bamboo hoops in the future, they're just kind of pricey so I went the galvanised wire fence route. Its at Home Depot for $5, and you get 7 pieces once you unhook sections and clip the excess wire. These are 18" but they also have 36" much thicker ones which is what I'm using for the massive carnosa.

  • 9 years ago

    If the growth tips have to be pointed up or sideways,then how do you this one's like curtisii, lacunosa,and wayetii?

  • 9 years ago

    No need for those ones! They are not as epiphytic (still will happily grow in trees...usually via seed, but usually don't use aerial roots to climb UP a tree, rather they use aerial roots, as well as their main root system, to affix themselves into crevices of trees, like orchids) as others and actually do better as hanging plants.

  • 9 years ago

    Those diagrams are really helpful! Am I right with the first diagram that you have to let the vine grow long enough to make a full circle? I have a kerrii and an obovata with the second "S" bend style diagram. It involves tying stems down with long loops of fabric strips until they have set in that shape enough.

    As for downwards danglers. someone needs to tell my pot of tsangi that it needs to hang, NOT climb up the pot hangers and into lacunosa's pot >:(

  • 9 years ago

    No...just start training the vine to make a circle, when it is big enough to clip to your trellis:

    As for tsangii...it can do whatever it wants, mom! Lol!

  • 9 years ago

    In number 4, wouldn't the tip be pointing down? Or does it curl up like in the diagram? I have one at that length but I don't want to kill it by fixing it pointing down

  • 9 years ago
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    Leave about two inches of slack, between the tip of the vine and the clip, and it should curl itself. If not, just let it grow a bit longer.

  • 9 years ago

    Ah, so pointing down is ok if it has enough room to curl upright. Awesome, thank you!

  • 9 years ago

    Whew! Just got done trellising my senior carnosa. It was a bit frustrating at first, this plant has been growing across window seals it's whole life and never gone up. But I did it, and only broke off 2 old leaves that were yellowing anyway, managed to protect all 7 peduncles. What do you think?

  • 9 years ago

    Beautiful!

  • 9 years ago

    It's going to look amazing in flower! I like your compacta in the corner too :D

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you! That's Miss Carnosa Lura Lei <3

  • 9 years ago

    Omg! That is one beautiful Hoya!!

  • 9 years ago

    It's even more beautiful than it looked! Did it grow very slowly? All compactas seem to grow slow but I noticed my variegated ones are even slooooower.

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you, and YES. That thing is so very slow growing. It is putting out new growth and leaves, but at a rate 5 times slower than any of my other hoyas. Takes a solid month or more for one complete adult leaf to emerge. I love it and I always wanted one, never cared for the other variegated varieties but the inner varie looks so much more attractive to me.

  • 9 years ago

    Was not able to find Compacta Lura Lei available in the U.S. so I went to ebay.pl (Poland's eBay) and found a seller there that readily ships plants to America. :)

  • 9 years ago
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    There is one on eBay right now. I'd buy it if it was bigger.

  • 9 years ago

    Is it the same variety as this one of mine? (The plant on the far left.) Because of the angle and extreme folds in the leaf it's hard to see the white centre but you can see it near the top of the plant. The far right plant has the white edges.

  • 9 years ago

    Yep! That's a Lura Lei!

  • 9 years ago

    Sorry for the photo being upside down, but I made someone happy by trellising her! Senior Carnosa is budding up! <3

  • 9 years ago

    I love the compacta's but if mealy bugs are a problems for you, you pretty much just have to toss the plant, pot and all, as you will never get rid of the mealy bugs with all of those folded, curled leaves. :o(

  • 9 years ago

    I don't have any issues with pests on my compactas because I use a systemic spray (Bayer Rose and Flower Insect Killer). The plant absorbs the spray through its leaves, vines, and roots. When the bugs go to feed they ingest the poison and x_x

  • 9 years ago

    Klnco444 I tried to find it but I could not.so if you or anyone that sees this, happens to come across a laura lei Hindu rope or krinkle 8 please let me know. Oh one more.if any knows where I can buy a cutting of krinkles tinkles please let me know! Thanks you guys

  • 9 years ago

    I've had my eyes peeled for a krinkles tinkles for a while! I will be watching for you. My Lura Lei is not quite big enough to cut yet but I will come back to this thread when it is and let you know :]

  • 9 years ago

    Went ahead and trellised my Pothos "Marble Queen". This girl is so splashy from base to tip, she gives the most splashiest of my Hoyas a run for their money :)

  • 9 years ago

    Ok, I think I just bought lura lei and regalis mixed in pot....Its small so I'm thinking that it will probably take around ten years for it to look like yours Klnco444 :-P

  • 9 years ago

    Nice score!

  • 9 years ago
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    Yep, nice little combo pot there. Before you know it that plant with become a big ole beauty :)

    It may looks lopsided for a bit, my regalia grows much much faster than my Lura Lei.

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