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great device

is it Csa approved or ulc or....any other canadian (Ontario Specifically) approval ratings
PCS34A-90- Kitchen Power Grommet · More Info

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  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Yes, it is UL listed for both the US and Canada.
    http://www.mockett.com/pcs34.html
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Thank you and the only other question I have now is....Do you have a schematic in order that I no how much room to allow for the junction / housing etc.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    It comes with a 9ft cord and a regular 3 prong plug. You can find the technical drawing and installation sheet on our website. http://www.mockett.com/pcs34.html
  • 13 years ago
    Great product! Would love these and new countertops to go with them!
  • 12 years ago
    this sounds perfect for my new (under construction) kitchen. We don't have wall space to fit a socket because we'll have window walls (spectacular view too pretty to hide behind cabinets. Would the granite fabricator just have to drill a hole in the countertop and an electric socket placed under the cabinet?
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    @cherilee01 - Exactly. Drill 3-5/32" hole (or use an 80mm bit for the metric equivalent), drop in from the top and hand tighten the locking collar underneath. It will need to be plugged into a power outlet. Available in a 3 power configuration or the 2 power/2 data version pictured above. Good luck! Call us with any questions at 800-523-1269. Thanks.
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks Doug!!
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    problem is they are not tamper resistant so you cant use them in residential per NEC code
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    We are currently going through UL with our new tamper resistant outlet model, which we hope to have ready for late Summer.
  • 12 years ago
    The problem is that it is designed and listed as a relocatable power tap for retrofit only.
    It cannot take the place of the code required outlets for a counter top, just used in addition to them.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    yes and must be tamper resistant and gfci protected
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    also of the "hardwired type" to no be considered a relocatable power tap
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Fred S and Final Phase Electric, you are both right in that it is meant to be a "relocatable" power tap and is not intended to replace the existing power, but rather serve as a convenience outlet, similar to a power strip, just with the added functionality of the water tight seal and hideaway feature, etc. While it does have it's own circuit breaker protection, it is intended to be plugged into a GFCI outlet. The NEC requirements do not directly address this type of device. Tamper resistant outlets are currently going through UL testing and will become standard once approved. A hardwire version will also be available soon.
  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    The 2011 NEC put in new language just for you :)
    210.52(C)(5) Receptacle outlet assemblies listed for the application shall be permitted to be installed in countertops.
    There are also parts of the code that prohibit flexible cord from being part of permanent wiring, and finding a wire or flexible cord UL listed for continuous movement/bending....... well, if you know of one, I'd love to know the source :)
    There is one pop-up already UL listed for permanent applications, but has gotten there by a different method. Hopefully, you will be there soon.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    is there any affordable pop up receptacles that meet the NEC code standards?
  • 12 years ago
    Fred S: what is the pop-up that is UL listed for permanent applications? I can't find one and really need one!
  • 12 years ago
    Nobody "needs" to make their electrical system more complicated and prone to failure. Proper house and kitchen design is a much safer option. Tombstone type receptacle would be a better option if absolutely necessary. AT $320, you don't just throw these in everywhere.
    http://tnb.com/pub/node/1459
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    http://www-public.tnb.com/ps/fulltilt/index.cgi?part=KPR15GBRS
  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    Thanks Fred S. Unfortunately the Carlon pop-up is on a mfg hold because they can't gets the parts they need from South Africa.
  • 12 years ago
    Figures. That is part of the big reason I don't like putting exotic outlets in mandatory required places. For an additional, non-required outlet, like in the center of an island, the type in the original OP is fine plugged into a GFCI. Some places may require tamper resistant.
  • 12 years ago
    Hello honey love you mom
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    PCS34 also be available with tamper resistant outlets. We expect those to be in stock in the next two weeks.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Great step forward Doug!

    We are very close to being able to use these in Canada now.

    Our code(s) call for a device in a kitchen on counter space to be Tamper Proof ...check! / Ground fault protected ...check! / and either T-Slot (20A , 125V ) or a Split receptacle.


    I have used the previous version before in a kitchen...but Had to Give the inspector one of my children. :)


  • PRO
    10 years ago


  • PRO
    10 years ago

    the finished product can be seen at davidweenen.com

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    These new units are UL listed and meet NEC requirements for use in the US, but no plans to offer a 20A version unfortunately. Hopefully you have more children you can give up to the inspector...? :)

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you, Doug. I'm a big fan of Mockett! Now...I challenge you to take it to the next level. I'm looking for a pop-up GFCI/UL-listed, which allows the counter top surface material to be adhered to the top of the pop-up mechanism, for the cleanest look, without having chrome plates showing. So far I've only found them for the UK. Has anyone found them for US?

    https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/?ui=2&ik=81c08bd6e3&view=att&th=1574376114d9d13e&attid=0.1&disp=safe&realattid=f_itabd5rl0&zw


  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Thank you, melcasado! We have this item, PCS77, listed here: https://www.houzz.com/products/pop-up-kitchen-power-grommet-prvw-vr~49790286 

    Unfortunately, it comes assembled with a Satin Chrome cap and we're not able to remove it to allow you to attach your own custom lid. This unit is GFCI/UL and rated for kitchen use (water tight, etc). Please let us know if you have any questions about it. Thank you!